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marc roberts
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1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« on: Wednesday 02 March 05 09:41 GMT (UK) »

Could I please request a lookup for the following person in the 1851 census for Bristol:

Martha HOARE aged around 24 at that time.

The following information may be helpful:-
*Her father was believed to have been named Uriah HOARE, who was a cooper by trade.
*She was thought to have been born in Dorset.
*She was married to John WARD in 1853 in the parish of St Philip & Jacob in Bristol. John WARD may have been christened in the same parish in 1829, with parents John and Elizabeth WARD.
*Martha and John had a son born in Bedminster in 1854.

I would be most interested to find out whether Martha (and possibly her parents) had moved to Bristol by 1851. Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
Marc Roberts
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Re: 1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 March 05 23:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Marc,

I have checked the 1851 census which is one of the few that has been name indexed and your family are not in Gloucestershire at this time.

Hope this helps your research.

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Re: 1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 05 07:10 GMT (UK) »

Thank you very much, poirot. That is very helpful. Hopefully I might find them still in Dorset.

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Marc
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Re: 1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 17:12 BST (UK) »

just to confirm this info-
john ward married martha hoare 4th july 1853 st phillip and st jacob bristol.brides father listed as uriah hoare and grooms father listed as john ward .both bride and groom were listed as 25yrs of age
this info was taken from the BIVRI VOL 2
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Re: 1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 17:18 BST (UK) »

Probably totally irrelevant ... but I've got Hoare's in Staplehill and Hampreston in Dorset around 1860, with one Thomas Hoare b. 1824 ... they are not a direct line so I've not bothered with them ... yet ...

But it might give you an area to search via the Dorset OPC ?
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Re: 1851 Bristol lookup please - Martha HOARE
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 May 08 07:06 BST (UK) »

Thanks very much for checking that Alli. That is the correct marriage. I have obtained the certificate, which unfortunately was a transcription rather than a copy, but confirms the details you have provided.

John WARD's age was given as 69 in the Index of deaths in South Australia. He died in 1887, which means he should have been 35 rather than 25 when he married. There is a submitted entry in the IGI showing a christening of a John WARD in St Philip & St Jacob in Bristol in 1829 with parents John and Elizabeth WARD which would support the marriage age of 25 if it was the same person. The marriage certificate does name John's father as a labourer named John WARD. So I am inclined at this stage to suspect a transcription error in the SA Deaths Index ("69" instead of "59"), but have not yet confirmed this from the actual death certificate.

I have also located the family of Uriah and Elizabeth HOARE in Dorset. Martha was christened in the parish of Abbotsbury on 25 Feb 1826. There are ten children in all in Uriah's family christened in Abbotsbury. Uriah HOARE was buried in Abbotsbury on 8 Oct 1836. He died aged 43 years. His origins are unknown to me. His wife Elizabeth died in Abbotsbury on 28 Apr 1853 and was buried there on 3 May 1853. I haven't found any marriage information for Uriah and Elizabeth. Their first known child was baptised in Abbotsbury in 1819. The 1851 census suggests that Elizabeth was born in St Brides London around 1793.

Thanks for the lead Lydart. Uriah and Elizabeth's family seems to have scattered to the winds by the 1850's, so it is possible there may be connections. There appears to have been a couple of concentrations of HOARE families in Dorset in the 1800's.

Thanks and best wishes,
Marc
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Oxfordshire - Radford
Cheshire - Turner, Roberts
Yorkshire - Cook, Horsfall
Inverness - McLean, McPherson
Renfrewshire/Lanarkshire - Sands, Wilson
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