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Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« on: Friday 14 August 09 09:47 UTC (UK) »

Joseph William Griffiths according to the 1841 census was a clockmaker aged 25 and living in London.

He was, however, from Stonehouse, Devon. He later went on to be a bookseller. Can anyone give me some advice as to how i go about finding out about jospeh?
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Re: Joseph William Griffiths
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 August 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »

Hello

I also have Griffiths from East Stonehouse, but unaware of a Joseph.

In 1841, was he married?  Do you have any details of children?  If he had any children born beteween quarter 3 1837 and the census in 1841 you could find out his wife's name then look for the marriage to find his father's name.

Other than that you will have to resort to parish records.

If you have any other information let me know and I will see if we have a connection.

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
PORTSWORTHY, Cornwall
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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 August 09 10:35 UTC (UK) »

Hello again

I am a bit confused.  I looked up the 1841 census and found one match - living in Angel Alley.  Is this the correct person?  If so, it states he was born in the county.  How do you know of the Stonehouse connection?

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 August 09 11:10 UTC (UK) »


Please find attached details which were kindly supplied to me of the 1861 census which is the most specific. In the 1851 census it merely says he was born in Plymouth which I think is close to Stonehouose

1861 RG9/212 Folio 14
Joseph W Griffith Head 45 b Stonehouse, Devon      Bookseller
Sarah Griffith Wife 46 b Shoreditch, Middlesex 
George S Griffith Son 19 unm b London City              Fish Porter
Thomas Griffith Son 18 unm London City                   Fish Porter
Henry Griffith Son 15 London City 
Francis Mary Griffith Dau 10  London City
Sarah Fowkes Mother in law 74 Wid b Shoreditch     Formerly dressmaker
Ann Gracey Boarder 25  M b London City                  Tailoress
Ann Gracey Dau 3 b London City 
Maria Gracey Dau 6mths b London City 
George French Boarder M 31 b London City              Stone sawyer
Mary French Wife 34 b London City                           Tailoress
George French Son 6  b London City
Joseph French Son 4 b London City 
1 Chapel Yard, St Botolph Bishopsgate, East London, Middlesex

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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 August 09 12:10 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the clarification. 

I have looked at my line and can't see any obvious connection.

My Griffiths family are:

Benjamin born c. 1800 

Son Benjamin born c. 1837.  Marriage certificate states father Benjamin was a labourer.  Benjamin jr. was a seaman on HMS Cumberland at the time of his marriage in 1861. His wife was Mary Jane Vennen.   Unfortunately I haven't found him on any census (was probably at sea) so I don't know if he was born in Devon or not.

In 1861 they were living at 1 Central Street, Plymouth.
They had 4 children:
Mary born 1863
Emma born 1867
William Thomas born 1868
Elizabeth born 1871

William Thomas was my great grandfather.

Stonehouse was a fairly small area so there may well be a connection.

Did you find Joseph's father's name from the marriage certificate?


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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 August 09 21:24 UTC (UK) »

Joseph William Day GRIFFITHS was baptised at Plymouth St Andrew, 16 May 1814, son of Thomas & Frances of Stonehouse - father a mariner.
Thomas GRIFFITHS married Frances WEBB 21 Jun 1802, also at Plymouth St Andrew.
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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 August 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »

Many many thanks could you clarify whose father was a mariner?
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Re: Joseph William GRIFFITHS
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 August 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »

Joseph's father, Thomas was a mariner. Baptismal records after 1813 gave the parents' abode and father's occupation.
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