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GRIFFITH'S VALUATION & LANDS RECORDS
« on: Friday 14 April 06 19:44 UTC (UK) »
Search Griffith's Valuation by Name or Place (with links to maps for some areas)
Another Griffith's Vaulation site here
Explanatory Article here- go to bottom of page, then select Word or PDF version.

Explantion of Deeds, Valuation Records, Tithe Applotment Books, Householder's Index, Landed Estate Records- here
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Irish Townlands
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 08 18:29 UTC (UK) »
Click here to read an article on Ancestry.com about Irish Townlands by Sherry Irvine, CGRS, FSA (Scot) who has been researching her British ancestry for thirty years. When Sherry was doing some research in Belfast she took some time to visit the Ulster Museum where she saw the thirty panels of a of the Ulster Place-Name Society exhibit called "Celebrating Ulster's Townlands" which explains quite a lot about the Townlands in Ireland.

There are a few bodies in the Republic of Ireland which do similar work to the Ulster Place-Name Society. These are the official channels such as the Placenames Commission and the Placenames Branch (the Government Department responsible for researching and verifying placenames in Ireland) Other groups include the Cork and Kerry Placenames Survey which was set up by an number of individuals who have an interest in the subject. This group incorporates a two county Survey Team known as Logainmneacha Chorcaí / Cork Place Names Survey for Cork County and Suirbhé Áitainmneacha Chiarraí / Kerry Place Names Survey for County Kerry

I know of two search engines for finding parishes and townlands ...
1. IreAtlas www.seanruad.com
2. Irish Ancestors Placenames www.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames

Click here to read an article which was originally published in "The Irish At Home and Abroad" journal of Irish genealogy and heritage (volume 5 #1, 1st Quarter 1998). Published four times yearly.

"Irish Place Names and the Immigrant: Divisions" by Dwight A. Radford and Kyle J. Betit

Their article refers to sub-divisions of townlands which may be field or farm names known to the local people. There are also small communities within townlands which have unique names and may only include a few houses. Messrs Radford and Betit suggest that the quickest method of establishing in which townland, civil parish, and county an obscure place name is located may well be to have a look at the "Manuscript Index to the Original 6" to the Mile Ordnance Survey Maps." They may not appear on the search engines which I've mentioned above.

Samuel Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland (1837) is a great site if you are having problems finding Irish townlands ... it can help identify townlands which may not be listed in any of the townland directories such as the seanruad.com IreAtlas website. Use the 1837 Dictionary of Samuel Lewis in conjunction with Sean Ruad's IreAtlas as this may assist in finding that elusive townland. www.from-ireland.net/lewis/allcounties.htm

This is getting to be confusing as Ireland has Hamlets and Villages as well as Townlands.
A Hamlet is smaller than a village and a village is smaller than a town. We also have old established Cities and recently created Cities which used to be towns. 

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Re: Griffiths Valuation
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 08 00:58 UTC (UK) »
The Valuation of 1848-64 was the Primary Valuation. Three notebooks were used.

1. Field Books: Information on the size & quality of a holding
2. House Books: Occupiers name and measurement of any buildings
3. Tenure Books: Annual rent paid and legal basis - whether by lease, or at will, also the year of any lease.

These notebooks also document any changes in occupation between the initial survey and the final published survey.

The valuation office holds the 'Cancelled' / 'Revision' Land Books & Current Land Books.

The 'Cancelled Land Books' and 'Current Land Books', give details of all changes in the holdings, from the time of the Primary Valuation up to the present day.

The books can be very useful in pinpointing a possible date of death or emigration, or even in identifying a living relative.

The Valuations are now on the Ask about Ireland site ...
http://staging.askaboutireland.ie:8080/gv4/gv_details_show.php?ID=268&la=

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Annual Revision Books of Griffith's Valuation.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 April 08 01:56 UTC (UK) »
The Valuation Annual Revision books are also extremely helpful. These are a continuous up-dating of the information contained in the original Griffith's Valuation of ratable property. They show changes in occupancy and ratable value. They are color coded and have the changes marked in different colored inks for different years, making them very useful for pinpointing a possible time of death or emigration, or identifying a living relative. In the North they run from the time immediately following the publication of the printed volumes to 1929. www.youririsheyes.com/land_records.html
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Valuation Office for Republic of Ireland resource
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 May 08 07:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi all, I know the Valuation Office has been touched on before, but I haven't seen it spelt out that the public can inspect so much material.  There are inspection fees payable unless you are an 'unemployed student oap' Grin.  You can also get old 'Valuation Certificates' (bit expensive for me but some people may feel the need) of your ancestors address & copies of valuation maps.  Here are details & good luck.  Regards, TonyR.

Valuation Office Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1
Public Office Opening Hours: Monday to Friday 9.15am to 4.30pm

http://www.valoff.ie/Fees.htm

"Public Office Fees effective from 1st September 2000
 
Inspection Fees
Current book or map (for research periods of less than 1 hour) €3.80
Daily research fee after 1 hour(Effective from 1/8/02) €15.24
Photocopy per item €0.63
Colour copy per item €1.27

Archive Research
Each volume/map consulted (for research periods less than 1 hour) €3.80
Daily Research Fee after 1 hour(Effective from 1/8/02) €15.24
(Periods greater than 1 hour to be charged at proportionate hourly rate)
E-mail or postal query €25.39
Note: Archive research is free to students on production of a letter of authorisation from their college/tutor, senior citizens and persons in receipt of an unemployment payment subject to satisfactory verification.

Certificates
Current Year €12.70
Previous Year €63.49
Previous Years to 1950 €101.58
Previous Years to 1900 €190.46
Any Year prior to 1900 €253.95
Provisional Valuation Certificate €126.97
Copies of Maps
VO Certified Copy €50.79
Current Map (Photocopy) €12.70
A3/A4 size (Photocopy) €6.35
Griffith Map €25.39
A3/A4 size €12.70"

http://www.valoff.ie/Research.htm

"Research, archive and genealogical services
Our public office team provides inspection facilities for members of the public to view all current and archive rating records and maps. Our archives contain the original books and surveys carried out in the 1840s, books and maps of Griffith's Valuations in the 1850s, and documentation showing the subsequent revisions up to the current position. The public office team also provides the following certificates and services:

Current certificates of rateable valuation
Historical certificates of rateable valuation
Certified copies of valuation maps
Provisional valuation certificates
Inspection of archival material

The following details are held in relation to each property:
Occupier Name
Townland
Address
Description of Property
Acreage of Holding
Rateable value and Reference to it's position on a Valuation Map
 
The archive is unique in that it can relate people to a particular property. In addition, the property location is outlined on a valuation map. The Valuation maps are also archived so it may be possible to locate the exact position of a house or property of a particular family back to C.1850. Please see details of fees payable for Genealogical Research.
What information do I need to trace a particular property?
In rural areas you will need, at a minimum, the name of the County, the name of the Townland and the name of the person or family. In a City or Town, the street name is also required.

Public Office and Archives
General enquiries 01-8171045 / 1041
Certificates      01-8171046
Maps              01-8171043
Research Services 01-8171017 / 1046
email             archive_mail[at]valoff.ie
Freedom of Information Requests 01-8171040 email: info[at]valoff.ie
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Re: Griffiths Valuation
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 April 09 15:03 UTC (UK) »
There are several different systems of land measurement in place in Ireland at various times.

Statute acre (or English acre) = 4840 square yards

Cunningham acre = 6250 square yards
A Scottish measurement. Cunningham acres need to be multiplied by 1.29 to convert them to English, statute acres.
www.clancunningham.org/photos/Settlement6.html

Irish acre = 7840 square yards
www.sizes.com/units/irish_acre.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acre_(Irish)
conversion table: www.convertcenter.com/convertunit.aspx/area/irish_acre/all/56/0/1

This may explain the differences in the acreage of a farm which seems to have changed in size.
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