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esteele
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Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« on: Friday 14 August 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »
My grandfather Harry Hare b 1860 Truro Cornwall is on the Scotland 1891 census as Keeper at Shaw's cattle market Edinburgh, living at an address "house in connubial with Gertrude wife  and family. Does anyone have more info on this establishment as I cant find even find a marriage cert for them..  He appeared on the 1901 English census in London still with Gertrude Harry had previously been in the 13th Hussars but left the army in 1888.  He married my grandmother Helena Cussens in 1903 age 42!!
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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 August 09 18:40 UTC (UK) »
A company called Swan&Sons had a livestock market at Chesser Avenue, in Edinburgh.  That's the only one I know of, but there may have been others.

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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 August 09 18:48 UTC (UK) »
esteele"connubial" means marriage. So " connubial bliss" means married bliss. I think it means he was living in the family home with his wife . What the address was I don`t know. Cheerio Viktoria
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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 August 09 20:44 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for your help.  I think the name of the market may have been badly idexed and it could have been Swan's market.   Do you have any more information on Swan and Sons market, if it is still in existence or where the old records may be.  I had surmised that a House in connubial with the market probably meant married quarters.
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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 August 09 08:24 UTC (UK) »
I think it's mostly gone now, finally fell victim to mysterious fire.

There's some stuff in here.  Have a look at the corn exchange entry.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=chesser+avenue+edinburgh&meta=&aq=1&oq=chesser+avenue

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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 August 09 12:26 UTC (UK) »
The meat markets at Chesser Avenue date from the early 20th century (one map on the NLS website suggests 1913). The previous cattle market was in Fountainbridge at the corner of Semple Street (until a few years back, the site of a night club - Annabels, The Americana, or Fat Sams - depending which era was your youth); with the slaughter houses on the other side of Fountainbridge.

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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 August 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »
esteele,The way you worded your query made it appear you were searching for the address of a house called "connubial". From other replies it seems you were looking for the meat market ,so my answer was of no use to you whatsoever.Hope you find what you are looking for. Viktoria.
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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 August 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi esteele

The main cattle market in Edinburgh around 1890 was located between Lauriston Place, Lady Lawson Street and West Port. It features on maps of this era. Unfortunately I have been unable to confirm if it was owned by anyone by the name of Shaw. There is an old photograph which can be found on www.capitalcollections.org.uk (entering the word cattle in the search box on the main page). Edinburgh City Libraries may be able to provide details of the owners/tenants from records they hold.

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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 14:14 UTC (UK) »
Another photo available here:
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/122945/details/edinburgh+74+lauriston+place+lauriston+cattle+market/
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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 August 09 15:21 UTC (UK) »
Harry's entry on the 1891 is rather difficult to decipher but I'm pretty sure it says "house in connection with cattle market".  No specific address given, but he is enumerated after three other households at 37 Haymarket Terrace, Edinburgh.  Having lived at no 83 many years ago I'd guess that 37 was a few hundred yards west of Haymarket Station - those houses had disappeared by the 1950s.
Take a look at www.nls.uk/maps/townplans/edinburgh500.html
Choose the bottom left quarter then hover about until lll.7.22 shows (near the top).  On that map you'll see, just behind where I think no. 37 was, that there's an area marked Haymarket Auction Mart (Livestock).  No idea if it was Shaw's or Swan's but looks like a good bet for Harry's place of work. The map is dated 1893-4.

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Re: Cattle Market Edinburgh 1891
« Reply #10 on: Monday 31 August 09 09:08 UTC (UK) »
A parcel of land adjacent to the railway station of Haymarket in Edinburgh's west end became available in 1912 when James Swan and Company Ltd, the famous animal auctioneers, relocated to a greenfield site in Chesser on the western edge of the city. The baleful bleeting of sheep and cattle on the way to their final date with destiny was replaced by the roar of curlers in their splendid new Haymarket Curling Rink.
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