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Little Nell
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Do you know anything about her at all, or are you seeking information about her e.g. baptism, parents etc.
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Jamie H
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Nell, the Surrey History Centre kindly gave me these details of her marriage in Surrey:
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Henry Tudgey bachelor of this parish and Elizabeth Ann Retford spinster of this parish were married in this church [St Mary’s] by Banns with consent of _____ this eighth Day of June in the Year One Thousand eight hundred and twenty nine
By me Thomas Hatch Vicar
This marriage was solemized between Henry Tudgey [he had signed with a ‘X’] and Elizabeth Ann Retford [she has signed her name]
In the Presence of George Cook, J Wilkins, [--?--] and Robert Rogerson”
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I've got her death as 1881 in Leatherhead, Surrey, and think she was born in Milton, Hampshire in 1809.
Her parents could be Moses RETFORD and Elizabeth, but I'm not certain of this.
Elizabeth Ann could sign her own name, so her family might have been well-educated. I have read that a later RETFORD in the area was a maker of bows for musical instruments.
I'd like to be sure of her parents, and siblings, and to know, if I could, something of their occupations and how far back the family goes in Hampshire. A big ask, I guess. Any help would be much appreciated.
Jamie
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TUDGEY; STEVENS (Surrey); SMITH (Surrey, Essex, Norfolk); WILKS (Worcs); YOUNG (Worcs); COWLEY (Ireland, Surrey); GROVE (Hampshire); REEVES (Gloucs. Worcs.); RETFORD (Hampshire, Surrey); FAIRBROTHER (Kent); WEBB (Surrey, Bucks); WILLIAMS (Pembrokeshire). Nicol (Scotland);DOLLOWAY (Kent); BOX (Worcs).
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bearkat
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There was an Elizabeth RETFORD in Boldre Workhouse in 1817 (no age is given for Elizabeth or her 2 siblings). She also listed as Eliza the illegitmate daughter of Mary RETFORD of Brockenhurst.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Little Nell
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We've touched on this one before, although it's quite a while back.
(http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,152587.0.html)
Perhaps a bit more information available now. 
Moses & Elizabeth Retford's children appear to be:
Henry 26 Apr 1807, Fawley (nee Tucker from Exbury)
Elizabeth 5 Feb 1809 Milton (recorded as Ratford)
John 4 Aug 1811, Milton (also recorded as Ratford)
I have found two of the illegitimate children of Mary Retford referred to in the other post: Ann and Richard, baptised a few months apart in 1810 (strange!), but not Eliza or Elizabeth. Anne & Richard are recorded as Redford.
Have you confirmed her birthplace from all the census that you can? Is it consistently Milton?
Nell
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Jamie H
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Re-visiting the URL you gave me, Nell, I see that I must've found Elizabeth was born at Milton in the 1851 census. But I haven't got any other census results for her. I have noted that she died in 1881, but can't see her on an 1881 census so she must have died before the date of the census.
If anyone had the means to check the earlier censuses for me – perhaps that would link Elizabeth with Milton, and with Moses and Elizabeth.
I do get so confused!
Jamie
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TUDGEY; STEVENS (Surrey); SMITH (Surrey, Essex, Norfolk); WILKS (Worcs); YOUNG (Worcs); COWLEY (Ireland, Surrey); GROVE (Hampshire); REEVES (Gloucs. Worcs.); RETFORD (Hampshire, Surrey); FAIRBROTHER (Kent); WEBB (Surrey, Bucks); WILLIAMS (Pembrokeshire). Nicol (Scotland);DOLLOWAY (Kent); BOX (Worcs).
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Little Nell
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OK let's do the census 
1851 HO107/1593/37 p6 Manor Place Walton on Thames
Elizabeth Tudgy Married 42 b Milton Hampshire
Jane Tudgy daughter 18 dressmaker b Walton on Thames
Alfred Thomas Tudgy son 11 scholar b Walton on Thames
Mary Ann Emily Tudgy daughter 7 b Walton on Thames
Edward Tudgy son 4 scholar b Walton on Thames
Henry is at HO107/1593/45 p 22 Dairy Farm in Walton on Thames (near Oatlands Park). A Farm servant, born Hound, Hampshire, age 47
1861
Mary Ann is a servant in Walton on Thames RG9/421/48 p37 at the Beaches, home of lawyer James Blenkinsop. No sign of Henry, Alfred or Jane. Edward appaears as the stepson of Richard Crockford! Richard married Elizabeth Ann Tudgy December qtr 1859 Kingston RD. Elizabeth Tudgy dying in 1881 may not be yours!
RG9/421/9 p 12 Common Side Walton on Thames
Richard Crockford Head 38 Garden Labourer b Effingham
Elizabeth A Crockford wife 57 b Ashley Hampshire
Edward Tudgy stepson 14 scholar b Walton
Mary Crockford sister 46 b Effingham
In 1871 Richard is in Leatherhead
RG10/800/14 p 19 Downs Cottages
Richard Crockford 48 Labourer b Effingham
Elizabeth Crockford 60 b Milton Hampshire
John Keene nurse child 1 yr b London
plus 2 lodgers
Edward Tudgey is now in Hallow in Worcestershire, working as a gardener, married.
1881 sees the pair still in Leatherhead
RG11/763/18 p 30
Downs Cottages
Richard Crockford Head 57 Garden Labourer b Effingham
Elizabeth Crockford wife 70 b Milton Hampshire
Emily Tudgy daughter 37 unmarried b Hersham
John Keene visitor 11 scholar b Lambeth
Constance Howard boarder 7 b Blackheath Kent
Elizabeth Ann Crockford died age 73 in Epsom RD Sept 1881 2a 19.
But what happened to Henry - I can't find a death for him a the moment.
Nell
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