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jillruss
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Old Windsor/New Windsor
« on: Wednesday 02 March 05 11:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Could someone please tell me what is the difference between Old Windsor and New Windsor? Apart from the obvious that one is old and one is new, that is!! Is there a geographical distance? The atlas doesn't make it clear.

I've been looking for members of the Horwood/Harwood family. Elizabeth cites her birthplace as Windsor on one of the censuses and was married in Windsor in 1840 - but no mention of 'old' or 'new'. I have found IGI's for a Horwood family in Waltham St Lawrence with the correct names and for the correct period but it seems to be a few miles away from Windsor. Help!!  Huh
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John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 12:50 GMT (UK) »

This site may help  Smiley

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp?u_id=10156920
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 13:02 GMT (UK) »

Old Windsor is about 2-3 miles to the South East of Windsor - with Windsor Castle and Frogmore palace in between them.

There were Horwoods at Old Windsor Green and at New Windsor in the 1851 census - obviously not Elizabeth as she married in 1840 - who are you looking for? 

Waltham St Lawrence is as you say a good 10 miles or more to the West of Windsor - I would have thought it unlikly

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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 13:04 GMT (UK) »

Sorry forgot to say - Windsor is not in the IGI so you wouldn't find baptisms from there in it

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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 14:11 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Nigel and Debbie. I am looking for Elizabeth's father , William Horwood and his wife who I think was also Elizabeth.
Jill. Both would have been born around 1780/90.
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Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 14:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

from New Windsor 1851 Ho 107 1695 Fo 561

William Horwood Head Mar 72 Labourer born Berks Waltham
Mary Horwood Wife M 66 born Windsor
William Horwood Son Un 40 born Windsor
Mary Padbury GDau 9 born Berks Eton

not Elizabeth - but he might have remarried and if it is him you were right with Waltham Smiley

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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 15:04 GMT (UK) »

Debbie, Thanks a lot for that. I think I'd got Elizabeth as the mother's name  from the dodgy IGI I'd found for Elizabeth Horwood's birth in Waltham St Lawrence.  Smiley

That's really helped - plus I now know the difference between New and Old Windsor!

Jill.
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John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 April 05 17:12 BST (UK) »

 Smiley How much recent info do you have on your Horwood's?

Only I knew the Horwood family in Maidenhead.

This is just 6/7 miles from Windsor and Waltham St Lawrence.
I knew the area well.

Is there anything I could help with as my brother still lives there.

Smiley Lesanne.
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 April 05 17:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Lesanne

No, I haven't managed to get any further with my Horwoods!

I'm thinking about writing to the Berks County Records. As Windsor isn't on the IGI, it's very difficult to make any progress any other way.

Still looking for the birth of Elizabeth Horwood in Windsor. From the differing ages given on censuses, she could have been born anytime between 1811 and 1819.

Still looking for the marriage of her parents, presumably some time around 1800-1811. I know from her marriage certificate that her father's name was William but I'm not sure of her mother's name. It could have been the Mary a fellow rootschatter found for me on the 1851 census.

If you can give me any help at all I will be very grateful.

Best wishes, Jill.
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 April 05 18:01 BST (UK) »

 :)Hi Jill.
Is Horwood her married or single name? Did she marry in Windsor or the area. Is Windsor her birth registry area.
Only if they came to/from Maidenhead, the reg district is Cookham, which is quite a large area. Wink
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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Re: Old Windsor/New Windsor
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 April 05 18:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Lesanne,

Elizabeth was born Horwood and married James Crockford in New Windsor in 1840. She states on all the censuses I can find that she was born in Windsor.

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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