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Northerngirl
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Three wishes time travel
« on: Saturday 15 August 09 16:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi to all on The Lighter Side.

Some while ago I had a dream which was rather strange.  I dreamed that I had been granted the chance to ask two ancestors - obviously a long time dead - one important question each that would help me solve some family research questions.  I can recall that for my second choice I had to make my mind up about which of two vexing ancestors I had to ask the question of.  I presume the answer would have broken down that 'brick wall'. I woke up before I decided who it was that I was going to ask and of, course, what the question was.  I think I had been hoping for a third wish.

If you were granted three chances of your own ancestors who would you ask and what would it be? Roll Eyes


Northerngirl.


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Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 August 09 17:04 UTC (UK) »

My three would be

1- Gt grandmother x5 LaJolla who was she i have no info other than the name LaJolla and she was born in Spain she married a english man and they emmigrated to India.  I would love to know anything about her she is a compleat mystery.

2- My gt grandfather Robert McCrea i would ask him about an Archiebald McCrea know one knows anything about him other than he was either Roberts brother or his son/stepson he was suppossed to have been disowned but i can't find any trace of him either in Ireland or Scotland the story is he was a alchoholic and down and out but the salvation army helped and he emmigrated with a wife to America i would really like to know if he is a real person or someone the family made up and if he is real who was he.

3-  my gt gt grandfather James Marris i can't find a birth for him don't know his parents i have his marriage and from that i know he could not read or write so any thing to do with his family i find the surname is spelt differently he had a daughter and then he dissappears i can't find a death and he is not on any census returns  i can find his wife and daughter from when his daughter was one but he is nowhere on the census it gives his wife as married so i think he ran away but who knows it is very annoying.

Louise Cheesy
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Graham - Port Glasgow Clydebank Glasgow
Gallacher - Dumbarton Ireland India Madras Calcuta
Sanders - Birmingham
Marris - Port Glasgow Fife Ireland
Fitzsimmons - Enniskillen
Davis - Birmingham Dudley
Brown - Dudley Bristol
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Northerngirl
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 August 09 17:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Louise.

Lots of brick walls for you then.

Your Lajolla connection looks interesting.

I imagine with a name such as McRae that there are lots of transcription errors. Agghhhh!!!!

Your Mr Marris sounds very vexing.

NG.
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

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County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 August 09 18:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Northerngirl

I would indeed love to know about the spanish blood in the family but my gut feeling about Archiebald McCrea is that he is made up for some bizaare reason i go back to him now and then but come up with nothing maybe he was made up to scare my dad and siblings into the right path away from the demon drink the family were quite strictly religious when it suited them but it did not work if that was the case fy dad and sisters enjoy a good wee tipple lol.  As for Mr Marris i will find him eventually.

Are you going to let us know your three Cheesy

Louise
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Gallacher - Dumbarton Ireland India Madras Calcuta
Sanders - Birmingham
Marris - Port Glasgow Fife Ireland
Fitzsimmons - Enniskillen
Davis - Birmingham Dudley
Brown - Dudley Bristol
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Upshon - India Madras Bangalore Dorset Wales Glasgow Any where in England or India
McLuskie- Glasgow Dumbarton
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 August 09 19:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi, my three would be:-I would ask my grandfather why he took his step-father`s surname when his younger sister kept their real father`s surname.It means that my father  did not have his proper surname and  so of course my sister and I  had the wrong  surname too.
                                      I would ask my great -grandmother whatever happened when the 1891 census was being taken that she ended up being listed as Ester Johnson instead of Eliza Addy. It`s a good job her sister-in-law was with her on that date as otherwisw the riddle would have been well nigh impossible to solve as it was I had to get an enormous amount of help from RootsChatters.
                                      My third would be to ask a relative who was the father of her child. It was rumoured it was her father who eventually shot her dead.However the general opinion was the lodger!!! If I can be cheeky I`d also ask where she and her hours old baby girl who didn`t even have a name are buried. This was 1914 and nowadays she`d get paid for it never mind shot!! Viktoria.
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 August 09 19:29 UTC (UK) »

I would ask my mum's granddad why did he leave the family and have at least one affair during his marriage (of which a son was born) and why did he set up house with a woman who then took his surname when they didn't marry.
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 August 09 22:35 UTC (UK) »

I would like to ask my g.g. grandfather where he was born, what his parents names were, and whether his brother-in-law was also his brother, or merely someone with the same surname.

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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 August 09 06:22 UTC (UK) »

Only  3 wishes  Shocked Shocked Grin

Now that is a toughy, I think I would start with William Simpson (b.c. 1763, Yorkshire) and ask him who he did his blacksmith apprenticeship with - no records found there.
I think I would also want to know who his father was, even though we have a strong probability we do not have enough facts to say - yep - thats him for sure.
Ok, so I have just spent 2 wishes on just one ancestor, boy, hope he knows how special he is.  Cool

3rd wish, hmmmm,
I think I will stick with the Simpsons, this time Joseph, (b. 1819 Kildwick, Yks), Williams grandson.
Did he set fire to the hay shed owned by John Taylor in Deniliquin, Australia in 1859?
He was acquitted, but you know, sometimes you just have to wonder, especially when you know about other things they got up to.   Grin

Margaret
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 August 09 06:56 UTC (UK) »

If only...........
My first wish would be to my grandmother Draper to clear up just what went on between her and her first husband.
Did he leave because she was unfaithful - she seems to have had at least 3 illegitimate children, or did she throw him out because he had someone else. 1911 census shows him with another 'wife' and little boy.

My second wish to my great grandad Draper. I would like to know about his occupations. One census shows him as a Doctor of medicine, his marriage cert as a musician. When he died, he was working for a company that made spirited waters. What did he really do?

My third to my great great grandmother Cook to find out what happened to their daughter Martha and her husband Joseph Gott and that might answer the question as to why they brought up their grandson Henry.

There are a few similar questions like the last one in the family, but that one intrigues me most.

As I said ...if only!!!!!!!!!!!!

Olly
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 August 09 07:22 UTC (UK) »

My paternal great great grandmother, Jane Raitt, b. 1849 Aberdeen, - "Who was the father of your children?"

My maternal great grandfather, John ( or Matthew) Smith, b.1856 - 1862, Sunderland - " Who were your parents and why do you keep changing your name and date of birth?"

My maternal 3 x great grandmother, Ellen Cunion, b. c.1796 somewhere in Yorkshire, probably "Why is yours the only Cunion baptism which is missing? Was it to make life difficult for me some two hundred years later? Go on then, who were your parents and where were you born? And did you die before 1841 for the same reason - just so that I would never be able to go any further back on this line?"

So my questions are all asked out of frustration really. If I could answer these crucial questions, I just might get round to asking some more interesting ones about their lives!!

Jen

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kooky
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 August 09 07:45 UTC (UK) »

I am missing three 2xgt gr mothers. They were all Irish! Undecided

I would like to ask Matilda Fisher nee Jones, father Thomas, who her mother was. Matilda was b. about 1843 in Enniskillen. She died in 1920 and was my maternal gt gr mother.

I would like to ask Henry Kane my paternal gt gr father who his mother was. His father was James and they were from Dundalk. Henry died in Glasgow in 1914.

I would like to ask John Edward Boshell my other paternal gr gr father who his mother was. His father was also John Edward and they both lived in Dublin. He was born about 1840.

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Northerngirl
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 August 09 07:55 UTC (UK) »

The questions have all proved very interesting.  I think though that Gengen is nearest the mark to my own questions.  I think I would like to ask my 3 x greatgrandmother Elizabeth (nee Shaw) Murray why her husband didn't wait until after 1855 to die (in Scotland) so that I would know that he was definitely a Murray and know who his parents were.  He very inconveniently died in 1843 and nothing else is known of him other than he was meant to be a blacksmith.  

And for number two I'd ask my 2 x great grandmother Mary Straughan (and any combination of that spelling therafter) why she registered her illegitimate child - my great grandmother - as Jane and not Mary Jane which she was known by thereafter.  

For the minute (I'll know doubt change it) my question for number three would be that I'd ask my Nanna (my Dad's foster mother) who of my Dad's  biological mother's sisters (unknown) in the next village tried to adopt him when he was eight years old but failed.  

NG
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KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 16 August 09 08:04 UTC (UK) »

The questions have all proved very interesting.  I think though that Gengen is nearest the mark to my own questions.  I think I would like to ask my 3 x greatgrandmother Elizabeth (nee Shaw) Murray why her husband didn't wait until after 1855 to die (in Sotland) so that I would know that he was definitely a Murray and know who his parents were.  He very inconveniently died in 1843 and nothing else is known of him other than he was meant to be a blacksmith.  


NG

Hmmm - can I have some more questions please? Paternal 3 x great grandfather, William Smith, married 1813 in Nairn. Why did you die before even the 1841 census so I can't tell if you were born out of the County?

And

3 x great grandfather, Joseph Milne, born 1815, Lonmay, married 1840, died before 1841 census - "Why did you die so young and where were you buried?"

I know - I am cheating. But three questions/wishes always seemed a bit on the stingy side to me. Wink
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N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 16 August 09 08:07 UTC (UK) »

Gengen as I'm the boss of this thread I can grant you as many wishes as you like - I'm going to cheat myself and ask some more questions.

NG
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Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

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County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 August 09 08:19 UTC (UK) »

Thank you. I shall apply myself to thinking up some more. Grin Grin
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N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
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