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Northerngirl
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 August 09 09:06 UTC (UK) »

Subsection i of Q1

What did your husband actually die from - he was 28 years of age - he did not die of a melancholic accident nor an infectious disease - he was a blacksmith - strong and healthy?

Subsection i a) (see how it works gengen) What does it mean in 1881 that you are an annuitant - was this a blacksmiths widow's pension or an insurance pay out and why so many years after his death?

Subsection ii of Q1

And by the way when you and he were accused by the kirk elders of unclean fornication to which you both repent does that equate to your marriage ceremony - and is it actually you who are responsible genetically for all those very premature births (after the couple are married of course) that occur in my family!!!!!!!?

Subsection iii of Q1
...And by the way did you know that your father William was accused by the kirk elders of begetting a child with Betty Kirk and thereafter abandoning it until accused and your mother Margaret coming forward to plead that she and William Shaw had married at Gretna Green two years earlier to this and she had not revealed it by change of surname from Paterson to Shaw - phew!!!

Subsection i of Q2
Who was the father of your child Jane - if in fact you know as you live at New Inn at the time and it is an inn on the A1 between Berwick and Belford and I wonder did he have any more children particularly girls who I can compare my DNA with?

Subsection ii of Q2
Did your father have a brother called Rinyan - always and on all attempts gloriously misspelled, misheard and guessed at - which would mean that they are the Straughan family of Doddington?

Subsection iii of Q2
Why did your sister, Elizabeth give birth to a child - two months earlier than Jane's birth at the same place, then move off to Buckton where the child dies then move back to Cheswick, New Inn for the birth of Samuel who you register as Starughen in 1866 and then give him his (supposed) father's surname for the 1881 census when you have married another man with an entirely different surname - and by the way is it worth me spending £7 on your sister 's marriage certificate to see if you Mary Straughan (who disappears entirely after 1861 and are driving me mad) are a witness?

Subsection i of Q3
Did the sisters make a formal application for the adoption or just sent a letter or word of mouth?

Subsection ii of Q3
Was it before or after their mother died in the same year?
NG



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DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
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Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
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Ginnelly: as same
MarieC
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 August 09 10:19 UTC (UK) »

Hmmm -

1.  I'd ask my gggrandfather Edward Martin what happened to him after he went insolvent in London in the 1850s and disappeared completely.  (Tissues at the ready because I fear that the answer may be very sad!)

2.  I'd ask his parents, Thomas and Agnes (nee Jenkins) where they came from.  They were inconsiderate enough to be Roman Catholic and to die before the 1851 census, and I seem to have no possibility of tracing them.

3.  I'd ask another gggrandfather, Allan JRB Cameron, which of the two places called "Aughamore House" in Co. Leitrim, Ireland, he lived in!  This is very confusing!

(You can see that I cheated with question 2!)

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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 August 09 12:08 UTC (UK) »

An interesting exercise is to note down your 3 wishes now, and then check in 12 months time, and see if they're still the same.

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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 16 August 09 14:59 UTC (UK) »

An interesting exercise is to note down your 3 wishes now, and then check in 12 months time, and see if they're still the same.



Mine will be, Nick. They have been the same for the last five years and I see no way of getting any answers in the future. Roll Eyes
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Northerngirl
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 16 August 09 18:40 UTC (UK) »

Don't dispair gengen just keep chip chip chipping away with that toffee hammer at the brick wall and you'll eventually get a break through!!!!!
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SCOTLAND
KBC interests - Murray and Shaw: Blacklock and Kirkland.
DMS interests - as KBC.

ENGLAND
Northumberland
Murray: > 1920 in Longbenton/Forest Hall; Howick 1920's
Elliott: North Nbld 1800's
Straughan/Straphen: North Nbld 1800's and 1910's/1920's Craster.
Henderson(nee Elliott)/Brodie Haydon Bridge 1900's
Bell (nee Elliott) Christon Bank/Embleton 1900's

IRELAND
County Mayo
Mills: Erris Head and Gortmellia
Mullarky: as same
Ginnelly: as same
Olly
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 16 August 09 19:17 UTC (UK) »

Yes, I think I've just added another tiny piece of the jigsaw that is my grandad's life from 1901.

I've been going through my notes and I found a scribbled entry that said his sister Harriet married someone called hughes. Checked it out on LancsBmd and Yes.
This would perhaps make her one of the 2 ladies who notified his death. (on another thread) Don't know why I didn't spot it before.

I never really looked for his brothers and sisters marriages before.

Thanks for making me look through my notes.

See genjen, you have to keep searching!!!!!!!!!

Regards
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 16 August 09 19:39 UTC (UK) »

1) I would ask my 3x Great Grandfather, George Thomas Myatt, who exactly he was. I can find no trace of him at all before his wedding day.

2) I would ask my 3x Great Grandfather, Adam Grosert, what happened to him after he divorced his wife. He disappears after that date.

3) I would ask the son of the above, Thomas Grosert, what happened to his first wife, Christina Heggie. He took her and his son to America and by the time of the next US census he was living with someone else.

I'm sure i could think of a 101 more questions to ask, but those are the puzzles that frustrate me the most!
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LizzieW
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 16 August 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

I'd ask

1.  My g.grandfather what his date of birth was, and who his parents were.  Particularly his mother, was she really Spanish or Portuguese and who were her parents.

2.  I'd ask my 2 x g.grandfather what his date of birth was and where he was born and if he really was the son of the people he knew as his parents.

3.  I'd ask my grandfather why he let people think he was an only child and whether there are the photos of his siblings.

For my OH,

1.  I'd ask his 3 x g.grandmother when and where she was born and who her parents were and if she died in 1842 in Glossop.
2.  I'd ask his 3 x g.grandfather when and where he was born and who his parents were and as he died in 1836 I'd ask him the cause of his death.

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GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
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little meg
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #23 on: Monday 17 August 09 03:43 UTC (UK) »

I'd ask

1. My g.grandfather what his date of birth was, and who his parents were. Particularly his mother, was she really Spanish or Portuguese and who were her parents.
Lizzie


I see at least 4 questions there Lizzie, and that's only in question 1.  Grin Grin - No cheating  Grin Grin

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genjen
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #24 on: Monday 17 August 09 08:00 UTC (UK) »

But we are allowed sub-sections so just put a little i, ii, iii etc and you'll be fine. Grin
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NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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MarieC
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #25 on: Monday 17 August 09 08:16 UTC (UK) »

Like genjen, my wishes have been the same for years and look like remaining well into the future!  Unbreakable brick walls, unfortunately.  My only hope (apart from time travel!) is that a currently unknown rellie comes out of the woodwork and tells me about these people!

MarieC
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #26 on: Monday 17 August 09 08:20 UTC (UK) »

I could probably solve one of mine if I could afford to send for umpteen birth certificates for John Smith in Co. Durham 1856 - 1861. I could probably work out which was mine then. But given the family rumour that he was adopted or brought up by a different branch of the family, I could just as easily be searching forever.
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Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
greensleeves
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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #27 on: Monday 17 August 09 08:41 UTC (UK) »

(1)  I would like to ask Mary Pearle (b. 1832 Brettenham, Suffolk)  to tell me her story.   She had two illegitimate children,  and married the father of her  third child  shortly before he was born.  She then left the children (including the baby) with her mother and went off to live with her new husband.  They later parted  (he appears to have gone back to his mother) and she bigamously married another husband, and ended up living with a third husband in what looks like reduced circumstances. Mary Pearle, was it all worth it, or did you spend most of your life in tears?

(2)  Lucy Bristo, who married John Hewis(s)on, Royal Artillery, in Woodbridge in 1806 - what happened to John Hewis(s)on?   Where did he come from and where did he go?  AND why was your daughter, Lucy, baptised Lucy Bristo Hewison in 1807,  always known as Lucy Bristo?  Was this a bigamous marriage?  Did he do you wrong, the  [possibly] utter swine?

(3)  Lovely Syslye Waddilove, who married John Pearle in Rattlesden, Suffolk in 1570 - please, please tell me where you came from! I know there are Waddiloves in Norfolk - are they yours?  They are only a few miles away from Rattlesden so it is quite possible, but impossible to prove...

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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #28 on: Monday 17 August 09 08:49 UTC (UK) »

But we are allowed sub-sections so just put a little i, ii, iii etc and you'll be fine. Grin

Now that's more like it, that gives me a new question to play with.
I will go with John Simpson, baptised as Whitaker,(1815 Yorkshire) raised by parents, John Simpson and Elizabeth Whitaker (who married same day as he was baptised),  John married first time as either Simpson or Whitaker, married second time as a Simpson, Children all in the name of Simpson, and possibly died as a Whitaker because he is named as Whitaker on his second wifes death certificate.
Phew!!!
Would love for him to sort all that out Grin

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Re: Three wishes time travel
« Reply #29 on: Monday 17 August 09 09:03 UTC (UK) »

Oh my!

Q1 Where, George Morjeanstern 9b.1791), were you born in France and when and where did you marry Mary Quin, oh and was it Morjeanstern or Morgenstern with a French accent, that would help a great deal?

Q2 Where George Hooker b.1740ish were you really born Odiham or somewhere else?

Q3 Was it James Bailey (b.1841) or John Bailey or John James Bailey, depending how you felt. Were you born in London and were your parents from Birmingham? Did you legally go from Jeweler to living on your own means?

I could find more questions but these ones niggle me.

Pipkim
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Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
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