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Topic: Black Country (Bilston) friends and nieghbours - more names 2 (Read 789 times)
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pwhh
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Andrew_85
I can't help with any details on your problem, but, for what its worth...
Why would someone travel from the Berwyns to Bilston?
I suppose there could be lots of reasons, but my ancestor travelled between Bilston and N Wales (not quite the Berwyns, but close), too - at least twice c1800-35.
Do you know James Bird's occupation, perhaps?
There was certainly a connection between the iron foundries in both areas, if that might give a clue...? I am still researching this and how it affected my furnace-building ancestors, so I was interested to hear about the Military Road story.
As above, not sure whether this will help you find your James Bird, but ...
Good luck anyway!
pwhh
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DudleyWinchurch
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No references to a James Bird in the Holy Trinity registers (very few Birds at all).
Bilston was on the canal network and I think that many workers may have used this to travel around the country as work increased or decreased in the various coal-mines and ironworks, etc.
Meantime, the baptism database for Holy Trinity now goes from A-J but I may take a break before tackling the next tranche.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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DudleyWinchurch
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There is a marriage in Wolverhampton around 1802/1803 between James Bird and Mary Lea. Following this, there are several baptisms at St Leonards for Charles Bird, Catherine Bird.... upto about 1810.
There is then a death of the above mentioned James Bird in our family bible and recorded as burried at St Leonards in 1834, aged 80. This gives him a birth date of 1754. I can not find his birth anywhere!!!
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
Transcriptions of St Leonard's registers are on FREEREG at: http://www.freereg.org.uk
and on the Wolverhampton Archives webpages at: http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory
I can only see the two baptisms that you have mentioned above there (Charles 1804 and Catherine 1806).
If you know of other children in the same family then maybe they moved away from Bilston for a while before James final return there. If you can find out where they went then this may give a clue as to why they kept moving.
It may help if you start by listing all the information about this family that you have from the family Bible. There were a number of families with a James Bird as father of children baptised in Bilston around that time.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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emgee
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Hi Dudley Winchurch.
I note you are now up to H.
I am interested in the Graven family (Catherine married my G grandfather) and I wonder if you have found any others that might help me trace their origins.
Thanks,
Emgee.
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Emgee,
Still haven't found anyone with the name spelled Graven but, because they might be useful, if only to demonstrate the extent of the variation in spelling of names in the Holy Trinity registers, I am sending you two lists. The first is of children whose family name begins Gav... and the second is children whose mothers maiden names begin Gav... Unfortunately there are not yet any Grav.. variants even for mother's maiden names, as yet.
[modified: sorry meant to send by PM]
Good luck, and remind me again to repeat the mother's maiden name search when the database is complete.
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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emgee
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Shelia.
Many thanks for the PM. (to which I have replied).
So many people have benifited from your research you should let us know if there is a particular item we should be on the look out for that would help you.
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emgee
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Sorry Shelia I hope you can read the last post.
I meant to run a spell check not cross it out!
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DudleyWinchurch
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That ok - all the best 1911 data is crossed out like that too  
S.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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