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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:02 UTC (UK) »
With that info we have

1841

Jackfield Broseley Shropshire

Robert Love 40 collier
Elizabeth 40
Ann 15 labourer
Samuel 10
John 5
Rebecca 5

all born in county

HO107/Piece 928 Book 4

off the IGI Robert Love married Elizabeth George 4.2.1821 Saint Leonard, Broseley, Shropshire

forgot to say the Wolverhampton info off FreeREG http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl and Wolverhampton History site http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:06 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for all the info and help, I only live a couple of miles from Broseley so a weekend visit may be called for!
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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 14:11 UTC (UK) »
Glad to help other have done the same for me in the past on here

I think that Robert and Thomas (father of the other John) may be brothers.

It might be worth dropping an e-mail to Stafford archives to see if they have copies of the Stafford Assizes records. If you can pin down more details of which John was sentenced it might clear things up further. I'll keep my eyes open in the meantime

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 22:58 UTC (UK) »
Thanks again for all the help. I have ordered a copy of John and Susan's marriage certificate which will hopefully confirm his parent's names. I have emailed Stafford to see if I can get any more info on the court case. I will drop you a line on what I find.

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 09:01 UTC (UK) »
No problem Kev it will be great to be updated

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 28 August 09 22:25 UTC (UK) »
John's father was indeed Robert. Interestingly the marriage to Susan was not witnessed by Robert but by a Richard Love.

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:55 UTC (UK) »
Interesting might be another brother but looking on the census there isnt anyone of that name until 1878 and he is a Richard Robert Love son of Thomas b 1841 Brosley (Johns brother?)

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 August 09 22:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Willow,

I was hoping you may be able to assist. I have done some more investigating and according to the 1841 census Robert and Elizabeth had a daughter called Ann, 15, Samuel, 10 and John and Rebeccca both aged 5, therefore born 1836

Now on the 1851 census John is not registered at home but Rebecca is and is classed as 15. John is on the 181 census but is shown as being 28 and therefore born 1833. I have found a John Love on the 1851 census and he is 18.

What do you think?

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 31 August 09 18:00 UTC (UK) »
Hiya Kevin

I think they are the right ones I've found that they are a little sloppy with ages on the 1841 census. I know they were supposed to round ages up for adults but they were often a bit out with the childrens as well

Of the IGI John is baptised 1833 so that would fit

Though one of mine that appears on a certain site as being 106 is way out! (He was 6 theres a mark on the page lol)

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Re: John Love - Missing?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 23:31 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Willow, it certainly fits. Looks like a trip to the NA may be needed to look for the court records re John as they cannot be obtained online ( unless I want to spend a minimum of £60)

Rebecca was still at home with Robert and Elizabeth in 1851 and then at home with Elizabeth in 1861 where Elzabeth was head of the household.

Thanks again for all your help.

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