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danuslave
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Mis-heard names
« on: Tuesday 18 August 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

We're all used to finding names that have been badly (if not to say strangely) transcribed, but I think I've found a variation on this.

A few weeks ago, while looking for the surname Moxam or Moxham in Tisbury, Wilts, I came across a baptism for one

D'la Revier Moxam

No indication of gender, and I had no idea what it was meant to be.

Further searching found a marriage involving

Delalirever Mowson

and a census return for

Dellarera Portnall


Eventually, in  1881, all was revealed

Della Eva Portnall 
married to John Portnall

Obvious isn't it?  If you say Della Eva out loud, slur the words together and add a dash of Wiltshire accent you get Delarever.  Throw in a couple of transcription errors and it all makes sense   Cheesy Cheesy

Does anyone else have names like this?

Linda   Cheesy
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Erato
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 15:37 UTC (UK) »

I have an ancestor born in Old Cleeve, Somerset.  This was recorded as "Oak Leaf" in the 1901 census.
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 17:36 UTC (UK) »

The 1871 census (taken in Hampshire) shows my one of my 2xgreatgrandmother's place of birth as "Funtle", Wiltshire.  Fortunately, I knew from other records that this was really Fonthill Gifford, but it makes perfect sense from a phonetic point of view, if said in a Wiltshire accent.
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

Oh I love em, a lot of the names that I have looked for have to said with a Yorkshire accent before you can find them, especially when it comes to place names!!

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danuslave
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 18:44 UTC (UK) »

Come on Heather - give  Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 22:23 UTC (UK) »

I spent many months looking for a place called Curronay in Fife - turned out to be Kilrenny.  It's all in the accent isn't it.

My absolute favourite was one I happened upon in a church record and more to do with a lack of spelling ability - unfortunately I think it's phonetic outcome is a bit too rude to repeat  Grin

Christine
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 22:39 UTC (UK) »

I spent along time looking for the birth registration of Ann Selina James born in Brize Norton, Oxfordshire- when I finally tracked it down Ann Selina had been recorded as Ensilena.

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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

My father was supposed to have been named after a gr uncle of his - Brower Wild.  He was given the name John Brower Wild.  It was mistranscribed on his birth certificate as John Brewer Wild.

In our searches we could not find any family member of the name Brower Wild. but as it turned out . . . he was really John Brear Wild, Brear being his mothers maiden name.
It took a lot to convince my Aunt that it was not Brower but Brear.

Strong Yorkshire accent perhaps affected this translation.  Grin

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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 23:44 UTC (UK) »

3xg.g.grandmother's maiden name recorded as Ruddick. Having been born in a predominantly Welsh speaking area, I tried variations. It was Rhydderch.
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 August 09 00:06 UTC (UK) »

I have a gt-grandma withe the most unusual name of Planceana.

I have a cencus transcription of her name as Plant Suna, another as Pluntcena and yet another record she is Placena.

Gt-granny is named for her fathers sister Planceana -  I found her name mis-transcribed as Ploughcena!
(I would LOVE to know where the name Planceana comes from by the way!


Yesterday I was looking for a record of a Georgiana ........... I found her as George Ian A (say it out loud lol)

Gt-gt-granny on another side is named Jane, I found that mistranscrbed as Jain!

Just a few off the top of my head lol.

Gaille
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Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country
danuslave
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 August 09 00:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gaille

I've just googled Planceana and guess what?  All of the results come from you  Cheesy  Do you think she was the only one ever??  Well, apart from Aunty  Cheesy

Linda
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 August 09 00:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gaille

I've just googled Planceana and guess what?  All of the results come from you  Cheesy  Do you think she was the only one ever??  Well, apart from Aunty  Cheesy

Linda
LOL That doesnt surprise me, I have a bit of an obsession on gt-granny Planceana!
Shes a fascinatting lady, she led quite an tough life n came thru it but then died quite young, lol and her husband was quite a 'brickwall' in my tree, he kept me very busy looking for him!

LOL IF you go to Free BMD & put in Plan* with no surname there are a few variations of the name! , Mainly in Cheshire - the Two Planceana Flints are my two lol - but you wont find a marriage for the second, she hated the name & married as Blanche!

Gaille
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Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 August 09 08:52 UTC (UK) »

Slight deviation from the topic, but when I was training to be a teacher my subject leader told us of an essay that he had been handed in from one of his students on the subject of "Youth in Asia".  Fascinating essay, but the essay was meant to have been about "Euthanasia"............. Grin
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 August 09 10:07 UTC (UK) »

I heard this tale about football legend Matt Busby when he first came to Manchester.

For the 1931 census he was asked his profession to which he replied 'Footballer' in his strong Scottish accent.

The enumerator misheard him and entered his profession on the census returns as ------- Fruit Boiler!
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danuslave
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Re: Mis-heard names
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 August 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Spidermonkey

Deviations welcome - especially when they are as funny as this

Linda
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