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gillsz
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mclaren family..
« on: Tuesday 18 August 09 17:26 UTC (UK) »

hello, im new to this forum. wonder if anyone can help me find out where and when my gg grandparents died. I have unsuccessfully tried thm on the census and after 1901 they seem to have disappeared! one of their sons was Peter Mclaren who settled in Kirkcaldy and lived on Dunniker rd. The gg grandparents were Peter and Christina and at one point they stayed in Newburgh(1881) but were from Logierait Perthshire. Any help would be fab. Thank you. Grin
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 20:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi and welcome to RC and especially the fife board.

it would help us if you have any dates of birth / marriage/ref to the census you have.

ta, Diddy
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 20:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I have found them on 1881 /1891. if you don't have let me know. so we have:

Peter Mclaren born 1846 Logierait, Perthshire  hotel keeper/ innkeeper and farmer
Christina  born 1848 Moulin, Perthshire
children:
Christina K  1877 Logierait
David           1878 Moulin
john             1880  Newburgh,Fife
James D W   1882  Newburgh
Peter            1886   Couper Angus, Perth
Alex S R       1888     Couper Angus

will have a look.  Diddy
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

ther are 4 Peter Mclaren of the right age died between 1913 - 1927 in scotland on SP. one is in perth, one in angus where he was in 1891. (can't find him on 1901)

the death cert should help as wifes name will be there plus parents etc.

you will need to buy credits to see full cert.   Diddy
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 12:55 UTC (UK) »

Not sure why Diddy chose 1913-1927. A Peter McLaren, husband of Christina (m.s.Mclaren as well) died  died Southbank, Forfar, July 14 1892. He is listed as Innkeeper 48 years old, widower of Christina. Informant son David. I think this is the correct Peter. Peter Mclaren, Balnacree, Logerait,  married Christina McLaren, Drunzie, Orwell, 17 Dec 1875 in the Salutation Hotel, Perth. Peter, farm servant son of David Mclaren, mason, and Catherine Reid. Christina daughter of John McLaren, farmer, and Christian Robertson. Christina McLaren, wife of Peter, innkeeper died March 13 1892 in Forfar. Informant husband Peter. Both died of Phthisis pulmonalis (tuberculosis). Hope I've got the correct McLarens.

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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »

my understanding from the first post was that he/she had seen the 1901 census and 1913 was the first death after that to come up between 1901 and 1940 when he would have been nearly 100.......

Diddy
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 17:39 UTC (UK) »

Hello Diddy

I understand. My first reading of the first post was the same as you then I wondered if the "after 1901" might mean not found in that census. Not sure why! I then looked at post 1890 and came up with the above. Call it serendipity.

Cheers

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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 19:58 UTC (UK) »

Well thats just so sad, a big thank you to you guys. Im kind of  upset for them as Peter was only 6 when he lost his parents and not sure what became of his siblings. What happened to him between the age of 6 and 15 I wonder?? Poor man, that sad. Also Alexander? what would have happened to him?
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 21:22 UTC (UK) »

p s sorry if i didnt make myself clear on first post, couldnt find them on 1901 census is what i ment. Thanks again, any ideas on how i would find the inns that Peter snr and christina  ran?
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 August 09 07:56 UTC (UK) »

There is an Alexander S.H. (rather than S.R. quoted above) of the correct age in 1901 Census. He is living with his uncle Alexander McLaren who matches for age the oldest of 10 children, listed on OPR C113767 for Logierait, born to David McLaren and Catherine Reid i.e. Peter's brother. The uncle, Alexander, is a farmer and grazier (?) in Logierait. Alexander Samuel Robertson Mclaren, 35, farmer, died of tuberculosis in Logierait on January 31st 1922. Married to Margaret MacGregor. Informant cousin Peter McLaren.

For information on the inns this is probably not the best Forum. Try Forfar etc.

Dod
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 August 09 12:51 UTC (UK) »

thanks for reply Dod, what a great help and what a sad story. Perhaps Alexander (Peter snr  brother) brought up the youngest children ? Im facinated to find out what happened to the young Peter between this time (of parents death) and to when I found him on his marrige cert to Isabella Cairns. His address was Union st Dundee, but at some time settled in Kirkcaldy. Iv been told by family that he was a special constable but having tried web sites have found no info... any ideas? thanx again. Smiley
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 August 09 16:35 UTC (UK) »

Alexander SR was the only nephew listed with widower Alexander, his 2 sons, 1 daughter and 2 servants in 1901. I haven't followed it up (out of credits) but there is a 16 year old Peter C McLaren in 1901 Census in St Mary, Dundee. If it is him it won't tell you the whole story but may add some clues. There are 4 other Peter McLarens of correct age in 1901 Census, 2 in Edinburgh and 2 in Perthshire .

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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 August 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »

Bad guess by me to suggest the Dundee location in 1901. Looks like the correct Peter (born Couper Angus 15y/o scholar) was with an aunt Jessie McLaren (58 y/o single b. Pitarough, Perth ?Pitarro?), a lodging house keeper in Dundas Street Edinburgh. This is almost certainly Jane McLaren b. 7 Nov 1846 to David McLaren and Catherine Reid in Logierait.

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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 August 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »

So peter Jnr was in Dundas St with aunt Jessie? Im not sure where Jane comes in to the story.. maybe iv read it wrong. That would make Jane Peter snr sister, but aunt Jessie was Alexanders wife? and Alexander was Peter older Brother. Did he too stay in Edinburgh?  Im sure I had him as a farmer/ grasier. I just asumed he had a bit land .So much info just trying to piece all the parts together.
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Re: mclaren family..
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 August 09 14:57 UTC (UK) »

My reading of it is that Peter was in Edinburgh with his aunt Jessie.  Jessie is common Scottish diminutive of Jane. She was the unmarried (single on 1901 Census) daughter of David McLaren/Catherine Reid (Jane McLaren born 1846 - OPR C113767) and so sister of Peter snr. That doesn't preclude there being another aunt Jessie, the wife of Alexander. Alexander snr., in 1901 Census, was widowed farmer in Logierait, Perthshire who was housing his young nephew Alexander, as mentioned in my earlier post.

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