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adrian7886
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Unusual Forename
« on: Wednesday 02 March 05 18:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi.

Been away a while. Needed a break as I wasnt getting anywhere with my family. Smith is very common.  Smiley
However I am finding out an awful lot thanks to the help of some recently discovered cousins in Canada and the fact that my family didnt move much outside of Hampshire and Surrey. Managed to obtain certificates of births  and marriages of deceased relatives so things are looking up.
Anyway back to the name. I found out that my uncle who was born 9/08/1917 had the middle name of Verdun. Now I am wondering that as its so unusual  it may help my research. Can any of you shed any light as to its origin.

Many Thanks
Adrian


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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 18:10 UTC (UK) »


Battle in ww1?

http://war1418.com/battleverdun/

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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 18:28 UTC (UK) »

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When an English surname, it is derived from the color as a Nickname or the man who liked to wear green, who played the "Green Man" in the May Day celebration, or who lived near the village green.
Verdon, The French form of the name is Verdu/Verdun . In Catalan it was called Verdu (accent over the -u). The name can also be a French form of the Italian name Verde , from the Italian word verde = green. It is presumed to have been a nickname for someone who always dressed in green. The diminutive form of the French version was often Verdon. Variations of Verde are Verdi, Virde, Virdi, Lo Verde . French forms of Verde are Vert, Vert, Ver, Levert . Other diminutive forms of the name (as in Little Green, Greenie, Greenette, etc.) are Verdelli, Verdini, Verdicchio , (all Italian); Verdel, Verdelet, Verdet, Verdon, Verdonnet (French).


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So possibly a fancy way of saying Green
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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 20:18 UTC (UK) »


I could only find one in the 1881 Census in Scotland, so I would say very, very unusual.

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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 22:03 UTC (UK) »

Welcome back, Adrian!

I've never thought of Verdun as an unusual name, as it was my late great uncle's name.  He was born and bred in Montgomeryshire to English/Welsh parents, so goodness knows where they got the name from...other siblings had 'ordinary' names such as William, May, Frederick, Francis, etc.

Funnily enough, though totally irrelevant, my grandad (Francis) married a Frances, and his brother Verdun also married a Frances - it must have got very confusing when they were all together!!!

If you find anything more about Verdun as a forename, I'd be interested to hear.

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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 March 05 08:03 UTC (UK) »

Adrian

My uncle born during the 1st World War was given the middle name of Vermille.

This is a place near to Loos where my grandfather fought during the war.

I suspect, if 1917 was the first instance of Verdun in your family,  that there was a similar reason.  Was your uncle's father in the war or maybe a close relative?

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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 March 05 23:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi.

I dont know. I cannot find anything out about my grand father.

There is no fathers name on either my uncles or fathers birth certificate. I do vaguely remember some medals that my father had but I cant remember who they belonged to. They werent my fathers as he farmed during WW2.

I suppose they could have been awarded to my grand father in WW1 but as I have no idea who he was its a bit difficult to check. Huh Huh

Even if I do find out he must have survived as my father wasnt born until 1923 and my uncle in 1919 so I doubt there will be any records of him fighting in the battle of Verdun.

Didnt they only record deaths in battle?

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Re: Unusual Forename
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 March 05 17:56 UTC (UK) »

Adrian

Not sure where you can go from here without a name.  I assume your father and uncles had their mother's surname?

If you did have a surname you could look up the WW1 medals index and then, possibly, get your grandfather's army records.  I say possibly because many, like my own grandfather's, were destroyed.

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