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Death of Dorothy WALKER FOX Cantley-REQUEST COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 20 August 09 22:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi.  I am looking for the death of Dorothy (Walker) FOX and cannot find it.

Dorothy WALKER b 1783 in Cantley baptised in Bessacarr m John FOX in 1811 in Cantley.  I found John's death on freebmd in Nov 1839.  Dorothy appears in the 1841 and 1851 censuses living with children.  However, by 1861 her unmarried children are living together but no Dorothy.  Therefore I assume she died between the 1851 and 1861 censuses.

Freebmd has one death entry for Dorothy Fox in 1860 which is the right time frame.  I ordered the original but it is the wrong Dorothy Fox.  It says she was the widow of William Fox cordwainer (whereas John Fox was a miller), that she was 74 which is 3 years off her real age, that she died in Mexbrough.  Nothing in that death entry seems to fit.

Can anybody help me?  I'm open to all ideas and thoughts.

Thank you.
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Ken S
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 August 09 16:05 UTC (UK) »

 As I have burial records for St Georges in Doncaster (1557 - 1890) ... I took a look for you .. there are 35 Fox's listed .. but could not see a John or Dorothy. But do see .... FOX  Addy wife of George (Miller)  7 Mar 1819  age: 41  &  FOX  Wiiliam .. Miller  7 Jul 1823  age: 67.
My rellie's were also married at Cantley in 1811 ... William Stephenson (coachmaker) of Doncaster married Alice Carter at Cantley in as I say 1811 ... and are buried at St Wilfrid's Church, Cantley. Plus their son Henry Stephenson married a Mary Ann Hill (the Hills had the wind mill at Cantley) and farmed at Branton.
But the Walker name seemed to go on forever ... about 320 Walkers buried at St Georges ..... IE: Walker Dorothy  widow 24 Jun 1835  age:73 & WALKER DOROTHY wife of John 8 May 1623  Balby
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 August 09 18:22 UTC (UK) »

 Cantley Baptisms 1813 - 1851                                                                                                              1813  Jun 6 Mary da of John & Sarah Fox Labourer of Brampton    (Brampton = Branton)
    1815 Apr 23  Martha dau of John & Sarah Fox, labourer of Brampton
    1817 Jul 13 George son of John & Sarah Fox labourer of Brampton
     1822 Jun 18  Anna dau of Richard & Elizabeth Fox farmer of Bessecarr
                                                   
     1823 May 28 Betty dau of Thomas & Ann Walker labourer of Cantley
     1823 Jun 8  Martha dau of Richard & Marthe Walker labourer of Brampton
     1837 Dec 12 Richard Walker son of Richard & Jane Fox farmer of Bessecarr
     1843 Mar 12  Robert Ward son of John & Hannah Walker  labourer of Cantley
     1845 May 13  Elizabeth dau of George & Jane Fox gamekeeper of Branton
      1847 Dec 12 : Born Oct 10 Ann dau George & Jane Fox gamekeeper of Branton Road Sponcors: G Slack .. S Slack
       1848 Sept 10 BORN: Jun 4  Martha Ann dau John & Hannah Walker labourer of Cantley
       1850 Nov 10 Born: Sept 14  Charles son George & Jane Fox gamekeeper of Branton Rd

     
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ken, sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner...real life has interfered!

Thank you for looking up these baptisms, a couple of them are for sure from my family tree: Anna the daughter of Richard Fox (John's brother) who married Elizabeth Walker (Dorothy's sister), and Martha daughter of Richard Walker (Dorothy's brother) who married Martha Elvidge.  The others I can't place but they could well be related. 

Do you have access to early marriages?  If so could I ask you to see if you could find some for me?

Thomas WALKER b 1736 and Mary UNKNOWN b 1745.  They would have married between 1760-1774 in Cantley I would guess.  Thomas' parents were Richard and Mary Walker.

These others I don't know who the husbands would be but they are all the children of John and Dorothy Fox and were all most likely married in either Finningley or Doncaster:

Mary FOX b 1818
Dorothy Moore FOX b 1820
Elizabeth FOX b 1824

Thank you again. 
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 August 09 23:39 UTC (UK) »

 Have you ever used the hugh wallis site. If not just google search Hugh Wallis ... when you find his site .. click on England .. then click Yorkshire .. then on the A-Z line .. click on the first letter of the Parish you want to search (IE ... C of Cantley) and you will see pre 1837 church bapt & marriage records (the Wallis site uses the Mormon records)
By going to this site .. & looking in the Cantley Marriages 1544 - 1812 ... there are only 3 Walkers......
   
   21 Nov 1803  Martha Walker and Robert Shirtcliffe
    30 May 1808  Elizabeth Walker & Richard Fox
     15 Oct 1811  Dorothy Walker & John Fox
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for telling me about Hugh Wallis.  I have been using it all morning and, although I've not added to my information about the Walkers, I have found lots of entries for a family named FREEMAN who were related to the Walkers by marriage.  This is good!  Thanks again.

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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 October 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »

I have looked up Marriage and Burial indexes and parish records in DFHS.There is a lot of data:-
Bapt Thomas s/o Richard and Mary of Bessacarr 30/11/1736
           Richard s/o Thomas                          "         14/6/1774 Farmer
           Mary     d/o Thomas and Mary          "          20/10/1776  "
           Elizabeth d/o "         "      "                           4/4/1781
           Dorothy    "    "         "      "                           13/4/1783
Marriage
           Richard Fox,Thurnscoe /Ethel Walker by licence 30/5/1808 WitnessesThomas,Richard & Matthew Walker and John Fox.
It could be that Thomas Walker was a church warden since he appears as a witness at many weddings.
Deaths at Darfield
Mary   7/8/1815 age 84 died at Wombwell buried at Darfield
Mary   1/8/1816 age 76 died at Arksey           "       "     "
Thomas 24/9/1817 age 72
Thomas 24/4/1838 age 63
Mary  wife of Richard(Farmer)24/11/1763 of Bessacarr buried at Cantley.
Mary   1/11/1822 age 77 Bessacarr.
Thomas  23/12/1823 age 87 Bessacarr
Thomas   6/4/1834  age 51 Cantley
Richard (junior) 23/2/1760
finally Richard[possibly the husband of Mary who died 1763]  4/2/1765   Bessacarr  Farmer.
I hope all this is of help.




           
           
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 October 09 17:01 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for these lookups.  Some of them I already had but not all.  I do have a couple of questions:

1.  Are you sure that the name of the woman married to Richard Fox was written as Ethel?  I think that must be a typo because I know Richard Fox married Elizabeth Walker, not Ethel.  Elizabeth was Dorothy's sister.

2.  Re the death of Richard Walker the farmer (who definitely was the husband of Mary) I just want to double check it really is 4 Feb 1765.  I have it recorded as 2 Feb 1765 but my information was hearsay.

Thank you again.  I really appreciate your taking the time to help me, and I love getting all these nuggets of knowledge. 
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 October 09 17:57 UTC (UK) »

KLM, you have given me some very nice death dates that I did not have, thank you.

May I ask you another question?  Richard and Mary WALKER had several children.  One of them was Thomas (and you gave me his bapt. 1736 and death 1823 dates).  Another one of their children was Sarah b 1742 in Bessacarr.  Now she married Thomas FOX b 1742 in Finningley.  They married 14 Jul 1767 in Finningley.  I do not have death dates for either of them.  Can you find them by any chance?  By the way, Thomas Fox is the father of my John Fox and his brother Richard Fox.  Yet another case of families intermarrying.

Thank you so much.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 October 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

I'll have a bash on Friday,if i'm spared and if we are not too busy.!
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 October 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »

I was spared!
The Narional Burial Index shows:-
Thomas Fox buried Finningley,St Saviour,22/9 /1801 aged 62
Sarah Fox       "            "                 "        21/6/1827     "    84.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 October 09 14:33 UTC (UK) »

 It's nice to be spared
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 October 09 16:05 UTC (UK) »

It is indeed...and I am the lucky recipient!  You're sweethearts, thank you.

May I carry this thread just a little further?

One of the entries you found for me was the death of Mary who was married to Thomas Walker.  She was born Mary Moor(e) in Finningley baptised 20 Mar 1745.  LDS says her parents were John MOOR and Dorothy ?.  Can you find anything about them?

As always, thank you. 
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 October 09 21:32 UTC (UK) »

 KLM has a big advantage over me .. as he is in the S Yorks / Doncaster area .. where as I am in Southern Ontario Canada .. BUT as you know I do have a few Doncaster records. The St George burial records show 11 Moor burials and 66 Moore burials Smiley
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Missing death of Dorothy WALKER m to John FOX in Cantley
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 October 09 15:12 UTC (UK) »

I'll swap you,KenS.Iwill take your records and operate from Canada and you can have my volunteers  job at Doncaster Family History Society.Ah! no,I thought not.
Regards.
Ken
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