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Ruskie
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Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 06:40 UTC (UK) »
On Scotland's People I have found two Marriage entries for the following couple:
James Bain and Elizabeth Bennet

one on 1-6-1816 in Kirkcaldy Fife and
another on 7-6-1816 in Auchtertool Fife.

Am I correct in thinking that the first is for Banns and the second is for the marriage?

Which should I use 5 credits to view? Which will contain the most information or will they both contain the same?

Elizabeth is from London and James is from Abbotshall. I am hoping for clues as to whereabouts in London Elizabeth is from. Do Fife PR's at this time give this information?

Thanks.  Grin
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Hibee
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 08:15 UTC (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

These may relate to publication of the banns in the two parishes where the couple were residing prior to the marriage.  It's pot luck which to open....depends on the usual practice of the guy whose job it was to record the details.

Don't expect too much from a pre-1855 record.  If you're lucky, you might get the name and occupation of the bride's father.

If their deaths were post-1855 in Scotland, this will offer a richer source of information.

Hibee
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Leith: Bridges
Edinburgh: Brown
Prestonpans: Bird, Inglis
Fife: Wemyss
Orkney: Brock
Ireland: Sweeney
jac2
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 09:18 UTC (UK) »
hi ruskie
are you sure you've got the right james bain, on freecen  census 1841 abbotshall

BAIN   James   M   40   Linen Hand Loom Weaver    Fife       
    BAIN   Elizabeth   F   40       Fife       
    BAIN   Mary   F   15   Bleacher Of Yarn    Fife       
    BAIN   John   M   15   Painter Apprentice    Fife       
    BAIN   David   M   15   Shoemaker Apprentice    Fife       
    BAIN   Elizabeth   F   5       Fife

this is possibly the marriage you're researching in which case this elizabeth is from auchtertool and not london. only other possibility which looks more likely is 1841 cameron fife roughly about 15 miles from abbotshall



   BAIN   James   M   40   Gardener    Fife       
    BAIN   Lettitta   F   40       England       
    BAIN   Henry   M   17   Bank Clerk    England       
    BAIN   James   M   14       England       
    BAIN   Margret   F   12       England       
    BAIN   Elesabeth   F   9       Fife       
    BUDDO   Janet   F   14   Female Servant    Fife

    jacci
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 09:45 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jacci

Good point  Smiley However, by 1851, you then have:

James Bain 55, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Abbotshall
Bettey Bain 55, b. London
Betty Bain 15, b. Kirkcaldy
Barbra Bain 9 b. Abbotshall
Bettey Cross 5, granddaughter b. Abbotshall

Town: Linktown, Abbotshall

Ruskie, I don't suppose mother Elizabeth made it past 1855 to get details of her parents?

Monica
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 10:31 UTC (UK) »
Thanks everyone.

Hibee, I just bought a pre 1855 Dumbartonshire marriage which gave that little bit extra info (bride's father and occupation  Cheesy) and I was wondering if Fife marriages gave the same 'extras' - if so they would be worth a look.

Jacci - many thanks for the PM. The Bains I am researching are the ones Monica found in 1851 (thanks Monica  Grin).

Unfortunately Bettey/Betty/Betsy/ Betsey/Elizabeth died after the 1851 census. I have been unable to find her death on SP, before or after 1855.

I have James's death in 1872. It's Elizabeth who's my brick wall at the moment. Common name combined with probable birth in London = nightmare.  Shocked

Grin
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 10:41 UTC (UK) »
It wasn't standardised throughout a county, Ruskie.  It was down to the man in the individual parish.

Sometimes you get a paragraph in glorious copperplate, sometimes you get a one line scribble.

Hibee
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Leith: Bridges
Edinburgh: Brown
Prestonpans: Bird, Inglis
Fife: Wemyss
Orkney: Brock
Ireland: Sweeney
Ruskie
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Re: Info on 1816 Fife marriage on SP?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 11:24 UTC (UK) »
The luck of the draw then ...  Wink
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