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85jbk
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Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »
Samuel Wells and third wife Mary.
They were to have two children, with Mary bringing a child, John Smith later to be known as John Smith Wells into the marriage.
1. Peter BC1839
2. Agnes BC1848
What became of Peter, Agnes and their mother Mary?

John Smith Wells as I have only just discovered married Isabella Chalmers
and had at least one child that I know of Samuel Smith Wells BC1850.
He found his way to Australia.

If you can enlighten me on any of these details  I look forward to hearing fom you.
Thanks
Jill
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 11:59 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jill

There is a brief family tree for this line on Ancestry. It shows details of John Smith Wells, wife Isabella and children in Cumberland England for the 1861 Census:

Isabella Wells 38, Inspector (Rail'y) wife, b. Scotland
Samuel Wells 10, b. Scotland
John Wells 8, b. Cumberland, Carlisle
Mary Wells 5, b. Cumberland, Carlisle
Rachel Wells 4, b. Cumberland, Carlisle
William Wells 2, b. Cumberland, Carlisle

RG9; Piece: 3920; Folio: 5; Page: 4

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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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excel
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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 12:05 UTC (UK) »
Mary, mother, was with John S Wells and family in 1851 at Eaglesfield, Middlebie, Dumfries
John S Well, 21, Plate Layer born Middlebie
Isabella, 24, born Annan, Dumfries
Samuel S Wells, 8 mo, born Middlebie
Mary, 42, mother, Pauper formerly servant, born Middlebie
Peter, brother, [mother Mary] 12, Scholar                "
Agnes, sister, 3yrs,                                                   "
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »
Possible entry for brother Peter also in Cumberland for 1871:

Peter Wells 33, railway lab., b. Scotland
Rosann Wells 25, b. Scotland
Richard Wells 8, b. Scotland
Mary Wells 7, b. Rockliff, Cumberland
Isabella Wells 1 month, b. Kirkandrews On Esk(?spl), Cumberland

RG10; Piece: 5214; Folio: 15; Page: 4

A marriage entry which will let you confirm it is the right line:

PETER WELLS and ROSANNA BEATTIE    
Marriage: 22 AUG 1862  in Halfmorton, Dumfries

Son Richard's birth entry on IGI:

RICHARD WELLS Birth: 25 OCT 1862 Middlebie

All certificates available to view on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 20:20 UTC (UK) »
Also posted on

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=401784.new;topicseen#new

To prevent any further duplication of efforts I will ask the moderator to merge the 2 topics
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85jbk
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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 07:19 UTC (UK) »
Thank You for all your entries regarding my questions, just fantastic too view these results.
From the entry listed for Samuel Smith wells on the 1861 census, as 8 months old born Middliebie... How do I go about finding a birth for him, or is this as close as it gets?
Jill
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Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick
MonicaLesl
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Re: Samuel Wells and third wife Mary Smith ?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 08:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jill

There doesn't appear to be a birth or christening entry for young Samuel showing on the Old Parish Registers. His birth was before the start of official registration in Scotland in 1855. It may be that his birth was not regitered, or the register has been lost/destroyed over the years, always hard to say. Also,one of the main reasons why births sometimes don't show is if the family did not belong to the established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian). The OPRs are for records belonging to this church. If the family practiced under one of the breakaways or for example were Roman Catholic, it is neigh on impossible to find these records on line.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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