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carol8353
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Here are the family in 1911. I think dad's writing must have been quite difficult to read,the transcript of each child's name is quite funny! And why is daughter Emily down as a Shrubsole if she's widowed?
SHRUBSOLE, HENRY HEAD MARRIED 27 YEARS 50 BRICKLAYER BUILDING B CANTERBURY KENT SHRUBSOLE, EMILY WIFE 45 (EVEYONE ELSE BORN BATTERSEA) SHRUBSOLE, EMILY DAUGHTER WIDOW 26 LAUNDRY SHRUBSOLE, JOHN SON 15 ERRAND BOY SHRUBSOLE, JUBLEE SON 14 SCHOLAR SHRUBSOLE, JINIE DAUGHTER 11 SCHOLAR SHRUBSOLE, CICEL SON 9 SHRUBSOLE, LILIA DAUGHTER 7 SHRUBSOLE, CHARLES SON 1
REf RG14PN2209 RG78PN75 RD26 SD2 ED21 SN354 Address 74 LAVENDER ROAD BATTERSEA South West London
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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lizdb
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So Jubilee is a SON not a daughter!
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carol8353
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And.......there's an Alfred Edward J Shrubsole born Wandsworth in Sept 1897......could the J stand for Jubilee?
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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carol8353
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All the kids are on Free BMD registered in Wandsworth.
The dau down as Jinie is probably Jenny K P....b Sep 1900 Wonder what the K P stood for?
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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lizdb
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Kweenie?
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carol8353
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Kweenie?  Haha...
Actually it's Kathleen- I found her marriage to a Cecil Williams and then her death in 1997 with the name Jenny Kathleen P Williams.
Looks like Queenie was probably a nickname.
I had a great aunt Dolly- her real name was Mary Elizabeth  They only called her Dolly cos she was a tiny lady,doll-like.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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BoBo
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Hi many, many thanks for all your help. I now have a clearer picture of this side of the family tree and am awaiting some certificates to confirm findings. Just ot say that Henry Shrubsole (aka Harry) was married to Emily Smith in Wandsworth in 1884. They had 13 children - 3 died either at birth or before they were 5 years old. 5 got married including Emily (twice) Agnes, Jenny, Cecil and Frederick. All info thanks to FreeBMD! Now I seem to have got stuck on 4 siblings and I wonder if they died in WW1. They are Henry Arthur V Shrubsole, Ernest Benjamin K Shrubsole, John Spencer M Shrubsole and Alfred Edward J Shrubsole. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can find out? Also, on the 1911 census - thanks again for that- I have Charles aged 1 - I can't find his birth - can anyone help. Finally, Emily is listed on the 1911 census as daughter and widowed. I know that this is true as she married again in Dec 1911 but what I do not understand is where her young daughter has gone to. May Vera Eileen Blatchly would have been 2/3 years old. Any ideas anyone? Why isn't she living with her Mum?
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UK - Dunn, Lands, Knight, Wickes, Hawkins, Rumbelow, Low & Jolly Malta - Camilleri, Aguis Delicata, Sciberras & Navarro
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carol8353
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You can search on the commonwealth war grave site to find who died in either World War
http://www.cwgc.org/
Will let you do that yourself 
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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lizdb
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If you look on the Commonwealth War Graves site www.cwgc.org you will find that Henry A V dies in WW1
(ooh Carol, you are good, I couldnt resist a look myself!)
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carol8353
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To find their deaths you are going to have to trawl through the indexes year by year and quarter by quarter.
Free BMD have only indexed deaths up to the early 1920's and the boys obviously lived till after that date.
Have you married them off yet?
Not had any luck with Charles birth or where little May is in 1911....maybe she's off visiting her other grandparents.Perhaps she was known by one of her many names not always May 
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BoBo
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Hi Carol
Looked right through FreeBMD and found the marriages of Agnes, Jenny (thanks to your help), Cecil and Frederick. Ernest Benjamin isn't on the 1891 census and should be as he was born in 1890. He may have died or could be that he wasn't actually the son of Henry and Emily. But there only seemed to be one Shrubsole family in Wandsworth and every one was registered, including their deaths even at birth. However you are right that FreeBMD does not have everything on it. Thanks again for all your help. Have left a message on the Light Infantry website for further details regarding Henry and the possibility of Ernest. BoBo
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Hi Can anybody help me locate Henry Shrubsole? According to family information he was born in 1860 in Canterbury Kent. He married an Emily  ? and by the 1891 census they had two children by the names of Emily and Molly. I am uncertain as to where and when they were married but I do know that Emily was married in 1905 in Wandsworth, London. Can anyone locate his birth, marriage or even on the census records for me? Many thanks BoBo I have quite a few Shrubsoles/Shrobsoles from Canterbury and the surrounding areas in my tree. I don't know if there is a Henry but I will check and let you know.
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1 Mar 1884 St Peter Battersea by banns Harry SHRUBSOLE 22 ba wood paver of 2 Station Road (Harry SHRUBSOLE gardener) Emily SMITH 18 spinster of 173 Ingrave Street (William SMITH deceased) Wit: John COOPER & William SMITH .....................
1871 - Elbridge Cottage, Littlebourne, Kent
Henry SHRUBSOLE head mar 40 gardener (domestic servant) b.Denton Kent Eliza wife 39 b.Eythorne Mary A dau 11 b.St Stephens Henry son 9 b.Barham Alice K dau 4 b.Barham Perleyhill? dau 2 b.Barham Frank H son 1m b.Littlebourn
RG10/966 folio 65 page 5 ...................
Barham baptisms are online http://www.barham-kent.org.uk/Genealogy.htm
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SHRUBSOLE baptisms at St Peter Battersea
Emily Beatrice 4 Apr 1885 (born 2 Feb) - Harry & Emily of 1 Knox Rd, wood paver
Agnes Jane 31 May 1890 (born 11 Jul 1884) Henry Arthur Victor 31 May 1890 (born 21 Oct 1887) Parents Henry & Emily of 50 Meyrick Road, wood carver
Frank William 13 Oct 1895 (born 5 Dec 1893) - Henry & Emily of 65 Meyrick Rd, wood paviour
John Spencer Martin 23 Apr 1900 (born 21 Dec 1895) Albert Edward Jubilee 23 Apr 1900 (born 22 Jun 1897) Parents Henry & Emily of 65 Meyrick Rd, wood paver
Jennie Kathleen Pretoria 16 Jul 1900 (born 19 Jun 1900) - Henry & Emily of 65 Meyrick Rd, wood paver
Cecil 6 Apr 1903 (born 27 Apr 1902) - Henry & Emily of 65 Meyrick Rd, wood paver
Lillia May 17 Jul 1904 (born 27 Jun 1904) - Henry & Emily of 65 Meyrick Rd, wood paver .........................
Ernest Benjamin Kent SHRUBSOLE was not a child of Henry & Emily .......................
16 Jun 1920 St Phillip Battersea by banns Albert Edward Jubilee SHRUBSOLE 24 ba gardener of 74 Lavender Rd (Harry SHRUBSOLE builder & decorator) Edith Mande ROLPH 25 sp waitress of 5 Chalmers Street (Edward ROLPH lab) Wit: Albert Edward Ernest ROLPH, Jennie SHRUBSOLE .....................
John S M SHRUBSOLE/Florrie M THOMAS ref. 1d 1607 Wandworth registration district September quarter 1920 - could be John Spencer Martin SHRUBSOLE
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