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Brie
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Katherine's maiden name? Completed.
« on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I have a Katherine Irwin b. Enderby c1851 (from 1891 census)

In D1880 Katherine Milestone married Harlow Irwin in Islington and I know about her life after this.

I have looked for a birth for Katherine Milestone for that date but not found one.

However in the 1871 census I have found a Kate Milestone (and my Katherine was always known as Kate, even signing as that on her daughters' marriages) who is born in Leics but in 1847. This Kate Milestone is married to an Edward Milestone b. London and who is a beerhousekeeper. I can't find either Katherine or Edward on the 1881 census which would seem to support the theory that Katherine is widowed after 1871 and marries Harlow Irwin in 1880. There is an Edward Milestone who dies in 1880 but in Bradford.

I then looked for Edward Milestone's marriage and there is an Edward Milestone who marries J1868 in Kensington to a Catherine Dalby (a good E. Midlands name)

However, I cannot find a Catherine Dalby b. Enderby either. Any ideas short of buyig Catherine's marriage certificate? I may eventually go down this line but as she is a 'step' I have other certificates to buy first.

Thanks
Brie
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Tati
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:53 UTC (UK) »

However, I cannot find a Catherine Dalby b. Enderby either.

Birth Sep 1845 Blaby (covers Enderby) 15 56
Catherine Dalby

1851 census for St Marylebone
(HO107/1489 57 31)
Catherine Dalby, 5, niece of Montague & Jane Dalby, b. Enderby

(Katherine Irwin was 33 in 1881, so the age is not very much out)

(1861 - St Luke, Middlesex RG9/209 52 17)
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Brie
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 August 09 12:27 UTC (UK) »

Tati,

Thank-you for this. It looks a distinct possibility.

I've been trying to find Catherine on the 1851 and 1861 but still no joy. Are you using Ancestry? I don't get anything for Catherine, Jane or even Montague so I'm wondering if they have been mistranscribed on there. I believe there is somewhere you can put the census reference number but I can't find it. But I'll keep trying  Smiley

Thanks again, I know I'm not chasing a phantom now.

Brie 
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 August 09 12:32 UTC (UK) »

I'm wondering if they have been mistranscribed on there.
I confirm  Wink

Using the 'old search' in ancestry, you should be able to go to the census page by just entering the references.

 Smiley
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 August 09 15:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Brie,
Thanks to Tatis briliant research I can add this info;
From www.freereg.org.uk

Catherine DALBY
Born 12 June 1845
Christened 19 August 1845, United Reform Church, Enderby, Leicestershire
Father WILLIAM
Mother CAROLINE

Also christened, same parents, same Church ;
Montague DALBY, born 12 Nov 1846, Christened 20 Dec. 1846
William DALBY, born 27 June 1850, Christened 7 July 1850

They just got married before Catherines birth Grin

30 March 1845, St John the Baptist, Enderby, Leics

William DALBY, batchelor, occp cordwainer, abode Enderby
Father THOMAS Dalby, cordwainer

Caroline GAMBLE, spinster, abode Enderby
Father WILLIAM Gamble, occp FWK ( not sure what this is)

Witnesses;
William HOLMES
Mary Ann GAMBLE

Trish Smiley
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 August 09 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Dad William is widowed by 1851 so that is probably why Catherine is living away from home. Montague she is staying with is probably Williams brother.

1851 Census
Bradmore, Nottinghamshire
HO107/2128/480/7

William DALBY, head, 30, widow, cordwainer, Enderby
Montague Dalby, son, 4, Enderby
William MARRIOTT, ?, mar, 33, framework knitter, Notts
Sarah MARRIOT, servant, mar, 29, housekeeper, Notts

Death;
Caroline DALBY, December 1850, Basford (Notts), 15 326


By 1861 William has remarried, still in Notts and there are 2 more little Dalbys. He is incorrectly put as born Bardmore, Notts, but Montague is Enderby, Leics.
RG9/2446/14/1
Probably married Mary ATTEWELL, Nottingham, June 1853,
7b 300
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Brie
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Re: Katherine's maiden name?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 August 09 09:54 UTC (UK) »

Trish and Tati,

Thank-you very much, wonderful sleuthing.

With cordwainers and frame work knitters they should be a well shod family.  Smiley

I saw Montague when I was doing my searches and wondered how he fitted in. On the 1881 census he is a licensed victualler in London and if you scroll down this link you will see a photograph of his pub.

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?p=63821

Brie
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