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janjim
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Migration to BC Canada
« on: Friday 28 August 09 07:56 UTC (UK) »

I am wondering if anyone could help me in regard to a Florence Jane Ambrose who was born 1878 Manchester, England with regard to the possible migration to BC, date unknown, she could possibly have married someone by the name of Drinkwater, but not totally sure.

I have no other information in regard to her family, only that she had a younger sister who migrated to Canada around 1917.  Her name was Evelyn Ambrose and she settled around White Rock BC

We are thinking that she maybe migrated after her sister settled in Canada

jan
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:09 UTC (UK) »

This looks like it might be her in 1881?

John H. AMBROSE   Head     34  all  born Manchester   Confectioner     
Jane AMBROSE   Wife      40         
William H. AMBROSE   Son      11    Scholar     
George F. AMBROSE   Son     10     Scholar     
Florence J. AMBROSE   Dau     3      Scholar     
Charles E. AMBROSE   Son        8 m         

At  78 Butler St ,Manchester.

  Ref RG11 / 3983 folio 9 page 12

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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:15 UTC (UK) »

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979 on Ancestry

Florence Jane Drinkwater 65 died 19 Jan 1944 at New Westminster Reg No 1944-09-637837
Also included is these 2 references - bca B13182 gsu 1983205
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:16 UTC (UK) »

So we can narrow down when she left the UK here's the family in 1891.
At same address as 1881.FIrst wife Jane must have died.

John H Ambrose head 43 confectioner
Sarah J wife 26
George F son 19 confectioner
Florence dau 13
Charles son 10
Evelyn dau 9 mths

So Evelyn would be Florence's half sister by the looks of it.

RG12/ 3232 folio 125 page 8
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Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:18 UTC (UK) »

Well she was still here in 1904...this is her marriage

In Sep 1904   

Ambrose  Florence Jane    and Drinkwater  Robert Webb       

Ref Manchester  8d 402   
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Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:25 UTC (UK) »

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979 on Ancestry

Robert Webb Drinkwater 77 died 10 Jan 1954 at New Westminster Reg No 1954-09-001261
bca B13218 gsu 2032872

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Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:29 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that Mick- that pretty much confirms the family I've foudn here in 1911.Although it is pay per view to see the transcript,I've managed to work out the family set up..I think  Wink

Robert Drinkwater 33
Florence 32
Florence 4
Christina May 3
Vincent 1

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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:41 UTC (UK) »

FreeBMD has
Births Sep 1906 Drinkwater Florence Jane Manchester 8d 188

Ancestry has
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Florence Drinkwater abt 1878 25 Nov 1911 Empress of Britain to St John, New Brunswick from Liverpool, England
Florence Jane Drinkwater abt 1906 25 Nov 1911 Empress of Britain to St John, New Brunswick from Liverpool, England

No record located for when Robert Drinkwater arrived Canada.

There are several records also for a Florence Drinkwater born abt 1877 Gloucestershire to and fro England and Canada 1920's to 1930's

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Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Mary Jones, Daughter of James and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, married 1883 London to Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Reedy - Ireland to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 August 09 08:57 UTC (UK) »

Vincent Drinkwater either remained or returned to Manchester

FreeBMD
Births Mar 1910 DRINKWATER Vincent Manchester 8d 272

Ancestry - England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
Vincent Drinkwater born 17 Feb 1910 died Oct 1991 age 81 Manchester Lancashire

Likely the same for Christina May Drinkwater

FreeBMD
Marriages Sep 1935 Manchester South 8d 674
Drinkwater Christina M Bradshaw
Bradshaw Henry Drinkwater

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Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Mary Jones, Daughter of James and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, married 1883 London to Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Reedy - Ireland to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia
janjim
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 August 09 11:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi guys,

Thank you so much for all of this information, it is just so great, I think we've got it all together now.

I really appreciate your help so much.

Regards

Jan
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Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 August 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Would you like me to pick up the Drinkwater death registrations?  They contain a fair bit of information including parents, immigration dates, occupation, place of burial and an informant who is often a descendant.

Regards,
Lynwen
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 August 09 21:26 UTC (UK) »

Lynwen,

Yes would really appreciate that, if you could do that for me

jan
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Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
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Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 August 09 22:16 UTC (UK) »

No worries, I'll pick them up on the weekend.  Please send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you the scans of the registrations.

Lynwen
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 August 09 23:43 UTC (UK) »

The scans are on their way.  I forgot to mention in my email that it looks like Clifford's wife is still alive.  If you search for them on www.canada411.ca and put BC in as the location, you will find her living at the same address listed on his death registration.  Not sure if you are interested in tracing living relations or are brave enough for one of those "you don't know me but...." letters!! Smiley

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Lynwen
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Re: Migration to BC Canada
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 August 09 00:05 UTC (UK) »

Lynwen,

Thank you so much for these, really appreciate that.   I wonder if you could assist me with Florence's siblings Evelyn and Ernest, who also migrated to Canada.   

Evelyn was married at Sapperton in BC, to Orlando Franklin Wilkinson 1/3/1919.
Orlando died 10/6/1949 at Burnaby, and Evelyn died 7/12/1973 Essondale BC

Brother Ernest was married in England to Maud Barlow.   Ernest died 6/2/1983 and Maud 19/12/1983, buried at Surrey BC.   They had son Ernest (whom we think died early) and daughter Lily (Evelyn) not totally sure on correct names there.

We have searched for years to know what happened to this side of our family, it is so fantastic to have access to documentation these days.

Thank you again

jan
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey - Newbury Berkshire
Kearn - Tibberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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