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Topic: Looking for the Wilmhurst family in 1851 please (Read 282 times)
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Bryant
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Grandfather Bryant 1897
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Looking for the Wilmhurst family in 1851 please....as seen in 1841 below
1841
Havock Lane, Maidstone, Kent
Bashemath(Y) Wilmhurst......40.....charwoman....yes
Naomah................"...............12...........................yes
Avis......................."................10...........................yes
Eliza......................".................2.............................yes
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1871 census
Wandsworth Rd, Clapham, London, Surrey
William Gray..........head.......38...................Maidstone, Kent
Catherine "............wife.........36...................Chelsea, Middlesex
Kate Alice".............daur........10...................Hoxton, "
William.....".............son...........8...................Hoxton, "
Sidney John"...........son..........6...................Pimlico "
Arthur......."..............son..........2...................Pimlico, "
Esther E.. "...............daur........11 months.....Clapham, Surrey
Naome Wilmhurst... cousin...... 42 (unm) dom servant...Maidstone, Kent
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Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?) Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area). Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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scobie79
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Hi Bryant.
Naomi Wilmshurst (with a second 's') appears as a servant at St Paul, Covent Garden in 1851.
Regards,
Scobie
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Bryant
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Hello Rog/Scobie
I'm afraid that references for the 1851 are no good to me, I don't have access to the 1851!
I was looking at the possibility that a Avies Hearth who married William Cox on Jan 8th 1849 at St Dunstans, Stepney (from IGI's) could possibly be Avies Wilmshurst as seen in the 1841 at Maidstone, Kent as I couldn't find Avies Hearth in 1841.......it now looks like a childs birth cert would have to be acquired to find out
1861 census
No 1 Court 32, Upper Tower Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire
William Cox........head........30....Japonner.............Lambeth, Surrey
Avies......"..........wife..........28................................Maidstone, Kent
William J.."..........son...........11...............................St Giles, London
James....."...........son...........9................................."................"
Rebecca..."..........daur..........7................................Birmingham, Warwickshire
Charles E "...........son...........4.....................................".......... ............."
Avies........"...........daur.........2....................................."......................."
Francis Henry "......son..........5 months........................"......................."
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1851 census
37 Cromer Street, Grays Inn Lane, Pancras, London, Middlesex
William Cox......head............20.......japonner...........Lambeth, Surrey
Avies......"........wife..............18................................Maidstone, Kent
William J..".......son...............1................................. Bloomsbury, London
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Thankyou for your assistance
Bryant
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Tati
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Hi all 
I agree that Avis O'Brian is the most likely one:
1861
RG9/222 30 19
St Martin Ludgate, Middlesex
2 Horse Shoe Court
Michael O'Brien, head, 31, ?Charter G P Office?, b. Ireland
Avis, wife, 30, b. Kent Maidstone
Alfred, son, 6, b. Surrey St George Southwark
Catherine, dau, 4, b. Mddx City London
John Wilmhurst do., son, 2, b. do.
Henry, son, 1, b. do.
Marriage Avis Wilmshurst to possibly Michael O'Brien
Mar 1854 Westminster St Margaret 1a 384
In 1851, at St George the Martyr, there's a Nurse maid born Maidstone who could *possibly* be your one (HO107/1565 438 40) with a stretch of the imagination
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casalguidi
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8 Jan 1848 Stepney
William COX minor ba japanner of Stepney (John COX herbalist?)
Aveis HEARTH minor spinster of Stepney (John HEARTH paper maker)
wit: John COX, Allice? HEARTH
Still stuck with finding Aveis in 1841 or a baptism but paper maker could fit well with Maidstone 
Casalguidi
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Bryant
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Thankyou Casalguidi and well done
The ages are good (both minors) and how many William Cox's who happen to have a trade of japoner marry a lady named Aveis (Avies) at the right time in history........but now the proverbial spanner has hit the works ie the father's name being John and not William although the first born son is named William John Cox!
So do I have the wrong 1841 for William and his father "John" ? is their an alternative to the family I found? time to have a look........
Bryant
1851 census
37 Cromer Street, Grays Inn Lane, Pancras, London, Middlesex
William Cox.......head.....20.....japonner........Lambeth, Surrey
Avies......".........wife.......18...........................Maidstone, Kent
William J."..........son........1............................Bloomsbury, London
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1841 census
Cornwall Road, St Mary, Waterloo 1st, Lambeth, Surrey
William Cox.......40.....grocer.............no (not born Surrey)
Mary.......".........40............................" "
Elisa......."..........18....box maker......." "
Richard..."..........12...........................yes (born Surrey)
William..."...........10..........................." "
Rebecca."...........8............................." "
Ann........"...........5............................." "
Mary......"............3............................" "
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1851 census
Cornwall Street, Lambeth, Surrey
William Cox......head......56.....shopkeeper..........Northamptonshire
Mary......."........wife........51.................................St James Square, London, Middlesex
Eliza.......".........daur.......27.....domestic..............St Strand, Middlesex
Rebecca.".........daur........18.................................Lambeth, Surrey
Emma.....".........daur........8..................................."................"
Anna.......".........daur........16....dressmaker.........."................"
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Bryant
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Long shot.......hopefully his occupation in 1851 will help the cause?
Looking for this family (if they survived?) in 1851 please....and can anyone read the occupation of John Cox in 1841 please?
John Alexander Cox married Ann Ayliffe on the 26th Aug 1822 at Christchurch, Greyfriars Newgate, London
four of the children were christianed at Stepney
William Frederick Cox.......c.24th Feb 1833
Alfred Baines Cox.............c.12th Apr 1835
Sarah Ann Cox.................c.24th Dec 1837
Mary Ann Cox...................c.14th Feb 1841
1841
Phoenix Place, St Ann, Ratcliff, Tower Hamlets, Stepney, Middlesex
John Cox............40.......unable to read......yes
John Cox............15....................................yes
Ann Cox..............40....................................yes
Mary Cox.............12....................................yes
Elizabeth Cox.......10...................................yes
William Cox..........8......................................yes
Albert Cox............6.....................................yes
Sarah Cox............3......................................yes
Mary Cox..............5 months.........................yes
Eliza Brown..........14....................................yes
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Thanks
Bryant
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