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carolineawood
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Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:24 UTC (UK) »

Looking for Samuel ward (born c 1791) and his wife Mary (nee Sloper born c 1803) on the 1841 or 1851 census.
samuel was born in Nottinghamshire and Mary was born in Devizes area.
They married 1823 in Bath and
They had at leaset one son - called Alfred ward born c 1827


Many thanks for any assistance

Caroline
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

1851 Abbey Farm. Nettleton.Alfred Ward not married aged 23 a farmer employing 6 men and 2 boys, who was born in Bath. Living with his dad Samuel a seedsman, aged 62 and Mum Mary aged 58. Dad born Notts. Mum born Devizes.  HO 107 1836
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:47 UTC (UK) »

Thank you!! Any chance of 1841?

Big thanks!!

Caroline Smiley
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:48 UTC (UK) »

I'll have a look for you
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »

1841 Ive got a Samuel (seedsman) aged 55 living with Mary aged 45 in New Bond Street, Bath St Michael. Samuel and Mary not born in county. (Somerset). They have what looks like 'Robert Ch' aged 15 living there too…He is born in county. HO 107 969 5
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 09 15:03 UTC (UK) »

1841 They also had a servant...Harriet Hatton aged 15.

Oh and I missed out Anne Gilmore their 23 year old female farm servant in 1851. She was a dairymaid.

Abbey farm was 170 acres by the way. Quite a biggy! He came a long way from a seedsman son in 10 years!
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 09 15:10 UTC (UK) »

Please ignore last comment!! Just now looking for Alfred ward in 1841 (born 1827 Bath)

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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 August 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »

I have the marriage of samuel ward to Mary Sloper in Bath on 18th March 1823.(IGI)

I have traced them in 1851, living at Abbey farm, Nettleton, with their son Alfred who was born 1827 in Bath.

Can anyone find Samuel and Mary ward in 1841 please- they were born c 1789 and 1793.

Also - is ther any way I can find out the name of Mary's father at the tine of the marriage?

Many thanks

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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 03:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Caroline,

This looks like the family still in the Bath District

HO107/969/5 Folio 17 Page 27
New Bond Street
St Michael
Somerset


WARD Samuel 55 No Seedsman
WARD Mary 45 No
WARD Robert Chs 15 Yes
HATTON Harriet 15 Yes Female Servant

Sorry fathers names were not listed at marriage until after civil registration commenced - July 1837  Cry
I also note the marriage you mention is only listed as submitted information so would certainly need to be verified.

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 03:53 UTC (UK) »

Robert is still in St Michael Bath in 1851

HO107/1941/338; Page: 24
13 Northgate Street
St Michael Bath


WARD Robert C Head 27 Unm b St Michael Bath Seedsman
WARD Mary C Sister 22 b St Michael Bath
BRADSHAW Edward Apprentice 16 b Clerkenwell London
LANGFORD Elizabeth Servant 22 b Somerset

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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 04:20 UTC (UK) »

Looking at their marriages both had the middle name of Christie

Robert Christie WARD = Phoebe Maria WILLIAMS Dec 1/4 1853 Haverford West 11a 1177
He is in Clifton Gloucs in 1861 - a seed and hop merchant

Thomas BEAVEN = Mary Christie WARD Sep 1855 Bath 5c 994
She is in Heytesbury Wiltshire in 1861 (BEVAN) - Thomas is a farmer of 569 acres

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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 05:12 UTC (UK) »

Thomas and Mary had a son Arthur Ward BEAVEN baptised Bishopstrow 21 Jan 1870 parents Thomas and Mary Christie.

baptised same day was Edwin Sloper BEAVEN. No ages were given

on the 2 May 1872 they baptised Tom Christie BEAVEN aged 11 and Lucy Jane Ripley BEAVEN aged 13

1871 Thomas, (farmer  860 acres) and Mary Christie are in Warminster with Edwin Roper 13, Lucy Jane 11, Tom Christie 9

so the names all tie up.

Arthur is mentioned here

http://www.heytesbury.org.uk/visitors.htm

http://www.archive.org/stream/whoswhoincommerc027340mbp/whoswhoincommerc027340mbp_djvu.txt

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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 07:10 UTC (UK) »

Getting too confusing -  Threads now Merged
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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 08:22 UTC (UK) »



Alfred WARD
Baptised, 27 September 1826, St Michael, Bath, Somerset
Parents SAMUEL, occp Seedsman, abode New Bond Street, and MARY.
File no 7732

Rober Christie WARD ( transcribed without T on end)
16 April 1824
File 7732
Same details as above for parents

Mary Christie WARD
15 October 1828
As above all other details


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Re: Samuel WARD and Mary SLOPER 1841
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 08:42 UTC (UK) »

Samuel and Mary DID NOT marry in Bath, Somerset Wink

From www.freereg.org.uk

18 March 1823, St John, Devizes, Wiltshire
Samuel WARD
Mary SLOPER
File 10162

Extra info on transcription;
Grooms Parish, St Mary, Bath


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