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Topic: James CHARLES 1851 Census COMPLETED (Read 175 times)
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jadewing
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Hi, I'm looking for 3 generations of James CHARLES, all bricklayers, in Waddingham in 1851.
1. James Charles b Bishop Norton c1795 (he was a widower in 1861 so I don't have a spouse name as yet)
2. James Charles b Waddingham c 1818, wife Ann b Blyton c1818
3. James Charles b Waddingham c1841, wife Jane Pinning b Nettleham 1842, dau of Catherine Pinning I think.
Thanks, Jane
[corrected Waddington to Waddingham]
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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Geoff-E
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Marriage 13 Feb 1817 at Bishop Norton James CHARLES to Mary DENT
Please note: birthplaces are Waddingham not Waddington - they are different places.
Perhaps this marriage is relevant, I can't see anything suitable in Lincs.
CHARLES James (son of James) TURNER Ann (dau of James) Holy Trinity Hull, 28 Jan 1839, (See IGI)
Marriages Mar 1839 CHARLES James Hull 22 239 TURNER Ann Hull 22 239
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jadewing
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Thanks Geoff-E. 
And sorry about the Waddington/Waddingham mistake which I have now corrected. It was late, I was tired ...
Jane
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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trish1120
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Further to Geoff E's info 
1851 Census Chapel Lane, Waddingtham, Lincolnshire HO107/2115/345/20
James CHARLES, head, 56, mar, bricklayer, Lincs, Bishop Norton Mary, wife, mar, 56, Lincs, Atterby Sarah, daug, unm, 22, school mistress, Lincs, Waddingham Barzilla, son, unm, 20, bricklayer, Waddingham Thomas, son, unm, 18, post messenger, Waddingham Elizabeth, dau, unm, 16, dress maker, Waddingham Susanna, dau, unm, 13, scholar, Waddingham Peter Flen, servant, unm, 19, bricklayers lab, County Mayo, Ireland
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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trish1120
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1851 Census Front St ( had to read) Waddingham, Lincolnshire HO107/2115/344/18
James CHARLES, head, mar,34, bricklayer, Waddingham Ann, wife, mar, 34, born Lincs, Blyton Harriott, daug, unm,11, Lincs, Blyton JAMES, son, unm, 10 Mary Ann, dau, unm, 8 Joseph, son, unm, 7 Edwin, son, unm,5 John, son, unm, 3 Emma, dau, 6mths George Metcalfe, visitor, unm, 27, joiner, Lincs, Owston
All children born Waddingham except Harriott
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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trish1120
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Not sure if you have this but by 1871 James snr has remarried to a Margaret;
1871 Census Chapel Lane, Waddingham RG10/2345/8/10
James CHARLES, 77, head, mar, bricklayer, Lincs, Bishop Norton Margaret Charles, 65, wife, mar, Yorkshire, Alborough
Next door is ELIJAH Charles + lg family, 45 , tailor and draper, born Waddington
There are quite a few marriages on www.freereg.org.uk for this family;
Harriott CHARLES to CAMMOCH 1859
Susannah CHARLES to BROWN 1 Dec 1856
*******James Snr to Margaret CANN 10 April 1862******* Both widow/widower
Elizabeth CHARLES to NORTHING 1878
Mary Ann CHARLES to KIRKBY 1868
Cheers, Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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trish1120
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Also some deaths on Freereg;
James CHARLES, age 83, died 1 Januray 1876 ( Snr?) James CHARLES, age 91, died 1909 ( son 1818?) Ann CHARLES, age 65, 1881 Mary CHARLES, age 63, 1859
I havent looked at the births yet, got to go out.
Cheers, Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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jadewing
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Excellent! thanks heaps Trish.
I hadn't checked FreeReg yet so good to find some more info there.
Cheers, Jane
PS: Is Catherine Pinning anywhere to be seen in 1851? I had a bit of a look for her in 1841 without success and the only Pinnings in Waddingham in later years seem to be John and Mary who were living next door to James and Ann (I think it was them?)
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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ivanidea
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PS: Is Catherine Pinning anywhere to be seen in 1851? I had a bit of a look for her in 1841 without success and the only Pinnings in Waddingham in later years seem to be John and Mary who were living next door to James and Ann (I think it was them?)
Marriages Sep 1848 DENTON Thomas Sleaford 14 797 Hassel Ann Sleaford 14 797 KITTLE Martha Sleaford 14 797 Parnham John Sleaford 14 797 PINNING Catherine Sleaford 14 797 TOWERS John Sleaford 14 797
1851 Census Chapel Lane, Waddingham Thomas Denton, Head, Mar., 27, Blacksmith, born Willoughton, Lincs Catherine Denton, Wife, Mar., 29, born Waddingham Jane Pining, Daur, 8, Scholar, born Nettleham Margaret Denton, Daur, 2, born Osbournby
(Same page as James and Mary Charles)
Ivan
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trish1120
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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Geoff-E
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17 July 1848 at Osbournby Thomas DENTON (son of James Thornton DENTON) to Catherine PINNING (dau of John)
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jadewing
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Excellent! Thanks again Trish & Geoff, Thanks Ivan!
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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jadewing
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Hello again. Could I trouble someone to look for John & Mary Pinning in 1851 as well?
I had come across them in Town Street in 1861, next door to or in the same house as James & Jane Charles but didn't know where or if they fitted in to the picture. It now looks like they are probably Catherine's parents based on a baptism record on FreeReg. 
Thanks, Jane
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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Geoff-E
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Hi Jane
1851 Chapel Lane, Waddingham John PINING 59 AgLab Mary 65 Harriett (gr dau) 7 Jane (gr dau) 1 I think All born Waddingham HO107/2115/345/21
This was the page after James CHARLES 56 and family (reported earlier by trish1120) and next door to the delightfully named Cumfort GIRDHAM
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jadewing
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Thanks Geoff.
I'm sure it was reassuring to live next door to Cumfort Girdham. I wonder if they lived up to their name?
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?: Dorman, Gowland. DBY: Walters. DVN: Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts. ESX: Adams. NBL: Fenwick, Jobson. NFK: Dewing, Goss, Herring. SAL: Bailey, Ball. SRY: Wicks. SSX: Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine. STS: Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford. YKS: Dewing. NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.
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