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LizzieW
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Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« on: Tuesday 01 September 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jean

I wonder if you can find the marriages of

1.  Jeremy Pemberton to a Hannah ? about 1767.  If so does it show their ages and are there any witnesses named?

2.  Samuel Pemberton to a Hannah ? about 1808.  If so, as above, does it show their ages and any witnesses?

Jeremy might have married in or near to Lower Peover, but I don't know where Samuel married.  He was born in Lower Peover and his supposed wife was born in Newton.  Someone told me they married in Warrington.  Neither facts make much sense as Newton is near Chester and a good 25 miles from both Lower Peover and Warrington.  I can understand a man marrying in his bride's parish, but I have no idea why they would marry in a parish that is not near to either of their homes.  The couple appear to have lived in Northwich after their marriage.

Many thanks
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 18:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Have you tried this website

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carole

Yes, but my ancestors don't appear on it.  Also I don't understand the date system.

Lizzie
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 07:52 UTC (UK) »

Hiya Lizzie.....just put an imaginary 1 in front of the number listed next to a name...as an example
7760218 becomes (1)7760218....becomes (1)776....1776  02  18...18th feb 1776...you`ll soon pick it up....allan Wink
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 08:17 UTC (UK) »

Thank you - but I still can't find any of my ancestors, even ones that I have the marriage date for.  Is the website complete or ongoing?

Lizzie
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 09:07 UTC (UK) »

Ongoing Lizzie......allan
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 10:25 UTC (UK) »

Lizzie
As you have probably seen there are lots 0f Pembertons on the above website.The only  Samuel marrying a Hannah was in 1782. The years you want should I think be on there because they are taken from the registers book.So maybe they didn't marry in the area. As to
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If so does it show their ages and are there any witnesses named?
I don't think Jean will mind me answearing for her Grin No, the same for the above website.

I stand corrected though Grin

Celia
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 11:21 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for your responses.  If Jean can't find them on wherever she looks, I'll have to admit defeat I think.  It's because I can't find the marriages that I can't accept the information I was given 2nd hand.

Lizzie
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 12:31 UTC (UK) »

Jeremy might have married in or near to Lower Peover, but I don't know where Samuel married.  He was born in Lower Peover and his supposed wife was born in Newton.  Someone told me they married in Warrington.  Neither facts make much sense as Newton is near Chester and a good 25 miles from both Lower Peover and Warrington

I wonder if you have considered that Samuel's wife may have hailed from another Newton in Cheshire - the one near Chester isn't the only one, there are several others.  Possibly she might have been born in Newton by Daresbury which was much nearer to Warrington.  Just a thought ...................
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 13:56 UTC (UK) »

Kelly

Yes, Samuel's wife could have come from Newton by Daresbury.  I suppose part of the problem is that although Warrington is in Cheshire now, it used to be in Lancashire until 1974, so any marriages in the Warrington area, won't be on any Cheshire records.

Lizzie
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 16:52 UTC (UK) »

Lizzie

submitted

Jeremy Pemberton Married Hannah Burrows on 18th October 1767  Lower Peover Cheshire

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Samuel Pemberton Married Hannah Darlington 18th September 1808 In Warrington Lancashire.

Celia  P.S were any of them Catholics by any chance

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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lizzie,

Matches with the index I have:

Jeremy PEMBERTON m Hannah BURROWS 18 Oct 1767 Lower Peover St Oswald

I can't verify the 1808 marriage that Celia has posted, the index only covers Cheshire - it's from the IGI and extracted from the parish register so seems a likely candidate.

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

It Didnt Give St Oswald on mine,so thats good you have it Grin

Celia
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 19:08 UTC (UK) »

Jen and Celia

Many thanks to you both.  I didn't see the marriages on IGI, musn't have been looking properly.  Certainly I can't find their births, or the births of Samuel's siblings.  I don't think I would have accepted a submitted marriage but as Jean has confirmed it from her index that's good.

Celia - I have no idea whether they were Catholics, although I don't think so.  Alice Pemberton, my 2 x g.grandmother, who was a granddaughter of Samuel married at The Cathedral Parish Church Manchester - I have her marriage cert as she married in 1871.  Also, I assume that St Oswald Church where Jeremy married was C of E.

Jean - If you've got time, can you see which church  Peter Pemberton (son of Samuel) married his wife Elizabeth (Betty) Woodward on 27 December 1832.  I've been led to believe the marriage was in Frodsham.

Many thanks again.

Lizzie
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Re: Please may I have a couple of Cheshire Marriage Look ups?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 September 09 06:52 UTC (UK) »

HI Lizzie,

St Oswald is CoE.

Peter PEMBERTON m Betty WOODWARD 27 Dec 1832 at Frodsham St Lawrence by licence.

Hope this helps,

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
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HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
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