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hethmar
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Dear Chris
just to let you know I have had a bit of success on the Verralls front.
I have found Sander Verrall marrying a Jane Bonniface on 12 October 1817 in Pevensey.
I have found a Saunder Verral christened 3.8.1794 om West Dean with the father given as Edward Verral and mother Barbara.
I have also found Jane Bonnyface bprm 21/9/1798 in Pevensey and christened 4.11.98 Pevensey.
I feel sure that Saunder Verral must be Sander Verrall, dont you?
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Hethmar
Hey, thats great news, you are really on a roll now - it just needed a start.
I assume yo have got most of the info from on-line like the IGI or Ancestry - It looks very very positive - but would want to check it with the original registers before being 100%
Now you have her maiden name as Bonniface - there are over 40 people with that surname in the 1851 census and a lot in the 1841 census - if you identified her parents from the baptism record, will find them in the 41 and 51 census for you.
Will do the same for Edmund and Barbara Verrall
Chris in 1066Land
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hethmar
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Yes, its so amazing how you get a thrill from tying these things together, isnt it!
Im sure that Saunder/Sander Verrall must be the same man, I mean it is such an unusual name and one can see very easily how it could be transcribed incorrectly.
Jane Bonniface (Bonnyface in places) had a father called William Bonnyface and mother Elizabeth.
Sander/Saunder had Edward Verral as father and Barbara as mother.
Do you think the parents would still be around for the census?
You really get hooked on this, dont you. I wish I had more time!!!
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Hethmar
Your Boniface ancestors were still there in both the 41 and 51 census
1841 Census – Registration District of Westham
HO 107/ 1117/1 Folio 1 – 10, Pevensey, Sussex
BONIFACE William, 75, Ag Lab, born in Sussex
Elizabeth, 70, born Sussex
Reuben, 35, born Sussex
Stephen, 10, Male Servant, born Sussex
Isabella, 10, born Sussex
Don’t forget that the above ages were rounded DOWN to the nearest 5
1851 Census
[b]HO107/ 1637/ Folio 4/ Page 2 – Horseye, Westham[/b]
BONIFACE Rubin. Head, Unm, 47, Marshland Looker, born Pevensey
Elizabeth, Mother, Widow, 82, born Westham
Stephen, Nephew, Unm, 24, Ag Lab, born Chiddingly
Isabela, Neice, Unm, 23, House Keeper, born Pevensey
Chris in 1066Land
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hethmar
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How brilliant 
I am sitting here grinning. Wonder where the kids came from both born same year and down as nephew and niece?
Great, will add this and I love the occupation descriptions too.
Thats wonderful Chris. Wish I had someone like you in Norfolk!!
I have found Great Grandad Edward Horstead in 1868 in London having married an Emily Steers. I then find him in all the census up to 1901 yet no sign of him at all before 1868 in London. I asked for a look up for him in St George in the East and Wapping (these birthplaces alternate on his census records!). But he nor his brother, Jonas appear anywhere. (I have also found Jonas marrying in 1870 in London but no where else at all, not even on census records - maybe he emigrated, dont know).
However, an elderly relative tells me that the Horsteads came from Norfolk and yes, I have found an Edward Horstead, born right year (according to census age) in a village just 3 miles from where I live, but apart from his brith in parish records, nothing at all again this end!! It is maddening.
I have now sent off for his Marriage Cert, as I assume I will be able to see his fathers name and hopefully either tie in or discount the Horsteads in the Norfolk village.
Sorry, got off subject there, but it is driving me to dstraction that I cant find these two men.
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Hethmar
I am sitting here grinning. Wonder where the kids came from both born same year and down as nephew and niece?
Glad that you are feeling very pleased, its nice when it all comes together and turns names and dates into families.
Sorry, but they were not both born in the same year:
If you take the 1851 census age of 24 for Stephen, then he should have been 14 in 1841; rounded down would make him 10 as listed.
Likewise Isabella was 23 in 1851, making her 13 in 1841, but rounded down makes her 10 as listed.
If you find any more sussex ancestors; you know where to find me
Chris in 1066Land
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genie520
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Being only new to this game I have only now come across your posting. I'm hoping that you may be able to help me in some way, no matter how small.
I have a Henry Cheal who married Anne Streeter in Lewes in 1826 and am trying to verify if this is the Streeter line I am in search of and hopefully the correct Cheal line!
Would you have any information about this couple?
I would be grateful for any info at all. Many thanks.
Genie
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there genie520
Welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards
I hope that I can help you further your research into your Sussex Ancestors.
Can you give me any further info on your Cheale and Streeter Families?
I have spotted a Cheal Family, Cordwainer and Streeter Family, Cordwainer again on the 1831 census for St John Sub Castro, Lewes.
There are several cheale and streeter people in my databases of baptisms and burials
Any little bit of info could be important
Chris in 1066Land
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genie520
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Hello Chris,
Many thanks for the welcome.
Unfortunately I know very little about the Cheal family, but as far as I can gather he married an Anne Streeter at Lewes in 1826. (Whether or not this is my Anne Streeter is yet to be proven).
Anne Streeter was the daughter of Emmory Streater and Frances (Gillman); she was born c.1799 and baptised at St. Mary the Virgin Church, Dover. Her siblings were Frances, Catherine and William, all baptised at St. Mary's. William Streeter married Charlotte Pelham in Sussex in 1826; another elusive branch on the family tree! Other than that I have no other info.
I would be most grateful for any information on either family.
Many thanks,
Genie
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genie520
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Hello Jane,
Thankyou for the confirmation of the marriage. It seems these folk are going to be my brick wall - amongst others!
Kind regards,
Genie 
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hethmar
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Hi genie, I havent been on this site for ages, I thought I would be notified if the thread was updated?
Anyway, thanks to the WONDERFUL Chris, you probably saw that I had done very well in tracing my Cheals/Verralls/Bonifaces. In fact I am back to 1550 on the Bonifaces, Chris!
genie, have you checked out Genes Reunited website, over the last couple of months hundreds of Cheal(e)s have been added and it is likely you will pick up a connection.
Many thanks still to Chris who helped me at the very beginning. By the way Chris, re my Horstead family - I did trace them back from Stepney to the village just literally down the road from me now. In one fell swoop and a lot of register reading, I went back a further 3 generations.
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Hi Hethmar
Wow - a voice from the past - great to hear from you again.
Well done on the research - glad to have helped you out in some small way.
I love the compliments - keep em coming, Please 
Hope you are managing to put 'flesh on the bones' of your ancestors, rather than just lists of names and dates.
Its great to see you are having all round success
Well Done - Proud on yer lass
Chris in 1066Land
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hethmar
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Thank you Master
Yes, Its been brilliant Chris, and it has made me realise how real these people were, not just names. Even closer to me, I appreciate my own parents much more than before, knowing the history that brought them all the way to today.
In actual fact, I have become very involved with the church where about 10 of my Horsteads are buried. It was amazing to realise how close I was to them with no knowledge at all that they would have had to pass my front door to get to town.
The village has just started its own historical society and embarrasingly, I am held quite in awe in that out of all those there I am the only one with flesh and bones (well bones anyway) in the village.
I am back to a John Boniface and Tomsyne Collyer married in Hailsham about 1576 I believe in my Sussex line. Dad was 90 on Thursday last and it was great to present him with a tree back that far.
I am concentrating on blood lines only as one could end up with many thousands of names otherwise. Had a bit of luck in that a lady in the states contacted me to say her Francis Boniface her GGFx3 was the brother of my Jane (the one you helped track down). It is very interesting as a lot of the family went over there in the early 1800's and the names of the towns sound just like Sussex!
Many thanks for your help Chris, you were an inspiration.
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hethmar
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Chris, I wonder if you could help me a bit moe 
I have been trawling through the family tree of someone on GR and getting quite confused as they have my Reuben (in the 1841 and 1851 census) dying at age 1! And lots of other confusing stuff.
What I wanted to see if you could help me clarify is the parents of the Stephen and Isabella Boniface shown as nephew and neice to Reuben and living with him in 1841 and 1851. As you may recall that are shown as Isabella, age 23, born Pevensey and Stephen age 24 born Chiddingly.
Are there any parish transcriptions on site that may help find who their parents were. Why are they with relatives from age 10, do you think both parents died?
Sorry to take liberties. I was feeling quite secure about all this until I looked at the tree of the person on GR and it has thrown me a bit! 
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