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Topic: South Shields, Durham, England (Read 724 times)
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aliyaze1999
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I am wondering if there is a North and a South Shields. I have an ancestor who is from South Shields. I might have found another ancestor who is listed in a census in the United States in 1882 as being originally from North Shields. Does such a place exist or is this a mistake on the census? I can't find anything that says that there is a North Shields in the 1880s. I would appreciate any help that any one has.
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bopsey
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North Shields is north of the Tyne and South Shields is south of the Tyne. South Shields may be Durham (county) but North Shields will be Northumberland. They are joined by a ferry and nowdays a tunnel!
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aliyaze1999
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Thanks for the help. It is hard to navigate my way around a county that I know nothing about. Sorry to have to ask twice about the same subject.
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aliyaze1999
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I am looking for a man named John Scott born about 1840 and his wife maybe the following year (Sarah Watson). They came to the US on a ship with Mormons called "John Bright". The information here is confusing because obviously the whole names of cites, etc. in England are not correct. If you know of anything, I would appreciate it. If I can help with anything you are searching for, just ask.
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aliyaze1999
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The census says "Shields, Durham, England" for John born Nov 3, 1840. He married Sarah before they came to the US. March 5, 1865 at St. John's Church in Lancashire, England. They come to the US right after that and arrive here in June 1865. They were one of many English who converted and sailed with a huge group of Mormons. The census for them some times says South Shields and sometimes just Shields. I have also found who I think might be a father or grandfather to John in the US but for North Shields as his birthplace. I haven't a clue. While the census here can be good, they can be very confusing. I have the family in Illinois - it is trying to place them back in England where we are having such a hard time.
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danuslave
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The only likely marriage I can find in Lancashire 1865 Q1 is for
John Scott & Sarah Barham (Salford Vol 8d Page 36)
Do you know if Sarah had been married before?
Do you have a town for where the marriage took place? Lancashire is a county and covers a big area.
Linda
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aliyaze1999
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Hi - the source for both birthdates are US census. John is listed as November 3, 1840 and Sarah as March 1840. The marriage is March 5, 1866 at St. John's Church, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. I do not have the source of that marriage. I also do not have a marriage certificate for them. Sorry about the year of their marriage. I should have written 1866.
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aliyaze1999
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The information that I have on John Scott (who might be the father to the other John Scott born abt 1840) is the following. This comes from a burial record in Plano, Illinois. John Scott born May 1797 North Shields, England, died June 7, 1882 in Plano, Illinois.
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