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Topic: South Shields, Durham, England (Read 704 times)
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JenB
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Great-great-grandfather Thomas Reed
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John is listed as November 3, 1840
I have found this baptism at Holy Trinity South Shields: 29th November 1840, John son of John and Jane Scott of South Shields. Father's occupation,: dealer in china (source - family searchlabs)
This ties with this entry in the 1841 census
HO 107 / 297 / Book 16 / Folio 10 / p. 15 East Holborn, South Shields
John Scott, 40, china dealer, no Jane do, 22, no John do, 7 months, Yes
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JenB
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Great-great-grandfather Thomas Reed
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This looks like the same family in 1861
RG 9 / 3748 / Folio 5 / Page 18
14, Back Terrace, Dawdon John Scott, head, M, 61, upholsterer, North'ld Shields Jane do, wife, m, 41, Berwick on Tweed, John do, son, unm, 20, printer (compositor) Durham Shields Margaret do, daur, unm, 18, do do William H. do, son, 15, upholsterer ap, do Seaham Mary A. do, daur, 13, scholar, do do Thomas C. do, son, 12, do, do do Joseph S. do, son, 8, do, do do
I think this is the same John also because your John was a printer on the 1880 U.S. census at Plano, Illinois
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aliyaze1999
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Thanks so much! You guys are truly amazing. Thanks again for helping me! Please let me know if there is anyone that you should need help with!
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danuslave
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1851 Class: HO107; Piece: 2392; Folio: 534; Page: 14
North Railway Street, Seaham Harbour, County Durham
John Scott Head Mar 52 Master Upholsterer b Northumberland, North Shields Jane Scott Wife Mar 31 b Northumberland, Berwick-on-Tweed John Scott Son 10 Scholar b Durham, South Shields Margaret Scott Dau 7 Scholar b Durham, South Shields William Scott Son 5 Scholar b Durham, Seaham Mary Scott Dau 3 at home b Durham, Seaham Thomas Scott Son 2 at home b Durham, Seaham
This also shows the difference between North Shields and South Shields quite nicely 
Linda
Added - Seaham Harbour
www.seaham.com
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aliyaze1999
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I think that John's mom is Jane Davis? Not positive. I have to ask. Do you both live in England? I am amazed at how much you have helped. One other question. Since I don't live in England can you tell me one thing? Looking at a map, it seems that North and South Shields are separated by a river. Am I seeing it right? Are these 2 areas (in today's time) easy to get too? I mean is it just a quick ride in a car? I am guessing that it is like Chicago. We have a north and south side. Is this the case?
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danuslave
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I live in the south west of England (just north of Bristol), so I'm no expert.
The river is the Tyne which, if you follow it west, flows between Newcastle upon Tyne and Gateshead. There doesn't look to be a bridge between North & South Shields. The nearest one is at Jarrow.
In American terms, that's just up the road! But in the rush hour it might not feel like that.
If you google North Shields or South Shields, you will get loads of information & pictures. Just spotted on wikipedia that locally, North Shields is often referred to as just 'Shields'
Linda
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Springbok
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Hi Ali,
Go to Google Maps and enter North Shields .When it says "get directions " enter South Shields.
As they are on opposite sides of the Tyne, it means going back into Newcastle to cross the bridge.
lived there many years ago(55!!) and I know it didn't take that long even though we had to use public transport
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aliyaze1999
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Linda,
Well you and Jen are certainly the experts on this stuff. Like I said earlier, this is the first time I have had to look anything up in England. I didn't even know that my relatives came from any where but Ireland up until one month ago! It certainly helps me to understand North/South Shields when I can relate to it in modern times. Thanks to both of you so much! It does sound like the north and south side of Chicago. It doesn't take a very long time but in traffic it sure seems longer! If you ever need help with anything in the US, please let me know!
Cindy
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danuslave
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Glad to help. Come back any time 
Linda
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Gadget
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Hi all
As someone who lives on Tyneside, I can give some info on getting from North to South Shields -
either by ferry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shields_Ferry
or there's the Tyne Tunnel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_Tunnel
or you could take the Metro - but this means going in to central Newcastle and changing trains.
Alternatively, you'd need to take the coast road into Newcastle, cross the Tyne Bridge and then drive along south of the Tyne.
Gadget
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2zpool
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Getting away from geography here. Baptism in Tynemouth Christ Church:
John Scott born 2 May 1797, baptised 2 Dec 1798 2nd son of John Scott of North Shields, Mariner, native of Gateshead [Co. Durham] by his wife Esther Dickenson native of Tanfield [Co. Durham]
There is also an Adam 4th son b 1806 and Esther 2nd daur born 1811
Seaham Harbour St. John's
21 Sep 1845 William Henry Scott, son of John Scott & Jane 26 Aug 1847 Mary Ann Davis Waters Scott, daughter of John Scott & Jane 13 May 1849 Thomas Charles Scott, son of John Scott & Jane
Note that Mary has the Davis as part of her name
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Co. Durham: Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener Northumberland: Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath ------------------------------------------------------------------ Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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