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scamp1234
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Hi Jill,
I am going to the archives tomorrow for an hour, so I will have a look for you.
The parish church is St. John the Baptist so I know where to look.
scamp1234
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Marmaduke 123
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Posts: 430
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Hi Jill
From Calderdale FHS transcription - both of Halifax, John is a weaver, married by banns. Nothing else I'm afraid.
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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jillruss
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 2927
Gt Gt Grandfather Shepherd from Aberdeen 1827-1910
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Thanks for looking that up for me, Anne.
I wanted to try and link the couple up as being the parents of one of my 4xgreat grandmother Mally Smith, but, as ever, West Yorkshire records are just too lacking in info.
I wanted John Smith to be from Greetland, and I suppose he still might have been, but I'll have to keep that marriage on the backburner until I can come up with something else.
Thanks again - much appreciated.
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Marmaduke 123
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Posts: 430
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Smith's not too common a name in the Halifax area. Most people from Greetland would be married at Elland, but I suppose if the bride was from Halifax .....Do you have a baptism for Mally? I have most of the PRs from the area, I could have a look around.
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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jillruss
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 2927
Gt Gt Grandfather Shepherd from Aberdeen 1827-1910
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That's part of my problem, Anne - I can't find a definitive baptism for Mally.
Mally married John France in Almondbury in 1781 when he is described as from Huddersfield but she is otp. However, I can't find a likely baptism in Almondbury for a Mally or Mary Smith (I'm never quite sure if Mally is just a familiar of Mary!).
I've found a burial for a Mary France in Almondbury in 1837 age 78, giving a birthdate of c. 1759, and there is a baptism in Elland for a Mally Smith in 1759 d/o John of Greetland. It's very difficult to know if this is the right one.
As John & Mally France's first daughter is named Grace, I was looking for a likely marriage between a John Smith and a Grace and came up with the Halifax one to Grace Horsfield!
Probably way wide of the mark, but I'm desperate! 
I'd be grateful for anything you can come up with.
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Marmaduke 123
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Posts: 430
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Hello again Jill
I've had a little look around, nothing very conclusive I'm afraid.
First of all, there are no obvious baptisms to a John Smith in Halifax immediately following his marriage to Grace - the first I could find was well into the 1760s and continuing on into the 1780s, so likely a different John Smith.
In Elland there is your Mally 27/12/1759. Also to John abode Greetland
David 27/4/1752
Nancey 29/3/1754
Joshua 9/4/1757
Samuel 24/5/1767
So doesn't look to fit with your 1757 marriage. a likely marriage is John Smith/Sarah Ingham, married Elland 3/11/1751, both of Greetland.
In Huddersfield (St Peter) there is
Mary 12 Oct 1750 (too early?) father William, abode Lane End Birkby
Mary 4 Apr 1753 father Benjamin abode Paddock
Mary 29 Jul 1761 father Richard abode Golcar
But all these seem to be accounted for by Huddersfield marriages, as far as its possible to tell.
On the nonconformist BMDs I found
Martha Smith bap 24 May 1757 d. John Smith of Beggerington
Mary Smith 15 Jan 1763 d. Abel Smith
Mally Smith 4 Jul 1763 d. James Smith
All at North Gate End Presbyterian Halifax.
If its any help, I've found my Huddersfield/Halifax ancestors, and I've got lots of them, don't move much especially at this period. They may stray over the border to the neighbouring parish, but that's about it.
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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Marmaduke 123
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Posts: 430
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Sorry Jill
Sarah Smith widow of John, Greetland, buried 19 Oct 1821, aged 95! 95 must have been a bit of an exaggeration, but she was certainly very old.
I don't have the Almondbury records I'm afraid, but looking at the IGI have you discounted Mary Smith baptised 7 Dec 1760, father Christopher? According to the Hugh Wallis site Almondbury marriages are on the IGI only from 1766, so will have missed Christopher's marriage. Maybe he married a Grace? (I've just checked Mary's baptism on FMP - he's a clothier from Honley ).
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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Marmaduke 123
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 430
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Doesn't look like it Jill, not in Elland anyway.
Sara Ingham bap 12/5/1728 father Isaac abode Greetland
Also:
Johannes 28/2/1730
Martha 28/2/1730
Maria 14/4/1733
Betty 5/9/1736
No marriage in Elland, but a possible IGI one in Halifax, but it's a submitted entry. Isaac Ingham/Mary Ingham 19 May 1723. My Halifax CD is only from 1754.
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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Marmaduke 123
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 430
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Glad it helped Jill! Good luck.
Anne
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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