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margaret davies
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owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« on: Wednesday 02 September 09 21:58 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley  Hello!, Could someone please help me find this couple on the 1871 census.
  OWEN GRIFFITHS, B1839 MAENCLOCHOG,
  MARY GRIFFITH<   B1840 Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire.
  I have them on the 1881/1891, living at,   BUSH, LLANGOLMAN,Pembroke, occ TAILOR and Farmer of 29acr,  with a bit of luck they could be there on the 1871,
  Many thanks ,marg











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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 22:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Marg

RG10 Piece 5505 Folio 57  Page 9
Tynewyddpant, Cilmaenllwyd, Pembrokeshire

Job     GRIFFITH  head widr 75 Relieving Officer  Maenclochog
Owen    "       son    mar  33 Tailor                        "
Mary        "  daughter-in-law 33            Llanboidy Carmarthen
David JOHN  apprentice 14   Tailors Apprentice  Monachlogddu Pembroke
Roger GRIFFITH lodger   8   Scholar    Penally  Pembroke
William    "              "      6         "             "              "


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margaret davies
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 22:44 UTC (UK) »

  Thank you so much Barbara for looking and finding this couple, Mary Griffiths is my Great/Grandfathers sister,  we found her on the 1891      and my G/G/Grandmother was living with them,they don`t seem to have had any children though, could you look and see if they are on the 1861 there please, Thank you SO MUCH,  Marg,,
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999


Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 22:53 UTC (UK) »

You're welcome  Smiley

1861 RG 9 Piece 4146 Folio 63    Page 1
Evelwen, Cilymaenllwyd, Pembrokeshire

GRIFFITH
Job     head  mar  65  Relieving Officer And Farmer Of 22 Acres Employing 1 labourer and 1 boy     Pembroke Maenclochog    
Mary wife  mar 61       Carmarthen
Benjamin    son    unm   32 Farm Labourer     Pembroke Maenclochog 
Ruth    dau    "    30  Seamstress           "               "
Owen    son      "    23  Tailor                       "               "
John    son      "    21  Carpenter                "               "
William    son      "    19  Carter                   Carmarthen Cilmaengwyn 
Martha    dau    "    17                                  "                      "

What was Owen's wife Mary's maiden name?

Barbara  Smiley
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 September 09 06:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret

I have sent you a PM

The Griffith family are part of my Tree. Smiley

I have a photo of Owen`s Headstone i took myself.

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James,Pembrokeshire,Carmathenshire & Glamorganshire.
David/Davies,Pembrokshire.
Gibby,Pembrokeshire
Griffith,Griffiths,Pembrokeshire& Carmarthenshire
Wilkin,Carmarthenshire
Edward,Pembrokshire
Phillipps,Pembrokeshire
Brown,Pembrokeshire
Evan/s ,Pembrokeshire
Llewellyn,Pembrokeshire
Bowen,Carmarthenshire
margaret davies
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 September 09 20:49 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley  Sorry Barbara,I should have replied before now, thank you once again for sending the information, You asked Marys maiden name, it was John, Father MORRIS JOHN and mother Esther,, thanks again Marg,,
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999


Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 September 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret, It's ok, I was just asking about her in case you wanted me to find her in earlier census before marriage, but if Omega has shared the family tree you may not need that now
Just say if you do.

Barbara  Smiley
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margaret davies
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 September 09 12:58 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley  Hi! Barbara, thanks for the offer, I wouldn`t mind a little help with Mary John on the 1851&1861, I`ve got her on the 1841 age 3yrs and then married on the 1871 to OWEN GRIFFITHS, I haven`t got the date of her marriage but it must be sometime in the 61/71,  any help would be appreciated  Many thanks  Marg,,
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999


Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 September 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »

Do you have access to census or do you need the full details?

1851 indexed and written as JOHNES
HO107 Piece 2475 Folio 12 Page 17

but Mary not with them, still looking

Barbara  Smiley
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999


Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 September 09 13:43 UTC (UK) »

Marriage reg:

Jun 1868    Narberth    11a   991
GRIFFITH    Owen      JOHN  Mary      


If you don't have her marriage cert, are you certain her parents were Morris and Esther?  There are a couple of other Mary Johns born Llanboidy about the same time.

Barbara  Smiley
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margaret davies
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 September 09 20:41 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley  Hello, Yes, I think this is MY Mary as on the 1891 census  at BUSH LLANGOLMAN, PEMBROKE OWEN and Mary have ,,,,       ESTHER JOHN, M/I/Law living with them,so I`ve gone back in the census with Mary and Owen,so I`m pretty sure its her,
  Mary died D1/4 1891, looked at freebmd for Esthers death but there`s too many to take a chance on any without having a cert just to make sure I have the right one,  no, unfortunately I don`t have access to the censuses for that area,wish I did just to try and find the rest of the siblings, Many thanks again for your help,, Marg,,
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 September 09 20:48 UTC (UK) »

  Barbara, Sorry forgot to add that I have the 1851/61/71 census for MORRIS AND ESTHER John at LLanboidy,but by 1861 most of the children have gone so can only think that they are out working  Marg,,
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 September 09 21:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

Sorry have been offline.   Will have a look for Mary 1851/61 now that I know you have the right one later and she is Morris & Esther's daughter.  I can hopefully eliminate the other couple of Marys living with other parents

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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 September 09 21:21 UTC (UK) »

 Wink  Thank you Barbara,,Marg,,,
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Re: owen& mary griffiths 1871 census
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 September 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

2 possibles in 1861 though I think the first is most likely - can't see one aged 23

RG 9  Piece 4149 Folio 62  Page 15  in household of Louisa REES  Farmer
Banksaison, Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire

Mary JOHN  servant    unm 20 Servant     Llanboidy  Carmarthenshire


RG 9 Piece 4173  Folio 45 Page 19
In household of Benjamin  EVANS     Draper & Grocer     
London House, High Street, Newport, Cardiganshire

Mary JOHN servant    unm 26 House Servant    Llanboidy Carmarthenshire    


will check for these two in 1851
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