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Topic: Help finding rellie on 1841+ possibly 1851 census (Read 217 times)
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pedroparker
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hi,
can anyone help find my rellie William Matty on 1841 + 1851 census.
I know nearly all the available family info either side of him but would like to find his possible census recordings.
he was baptised in Deerhurst in 1775 and lived there until his death in 1851.
so he would be around 66yrs in 1841 + 76yrs in 1851.(pending on him being christened close to birth)
his wife was Alice Hobbs who died in 1817 and he had 5 children:
Mary ch1798
Joseph b1800 d1884
Elizabeth ch1802
William ch1806 d1831
Ann ch1814
thanks
pedro
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Springbok
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Hi Pedro,
There is an entry Deerhurst 1851.
ho 107/ 1974/118/page 1
William aged 76 Agricultural labourer
Wife Patience 66
Thomas Jones aged 33 Sons in Law Gardener
Phillip Jones aged 30 Sons in Law. Ag. Lab All b. Deerhurst.
Looks as he remarried and the Jones are her sons
Spring
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suzard
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Looks like he possibly remarried???
1851 Deerhurst
William Matty head M 76 Pauper Ag lab
Patience wife 66
Thomas Jones son in law U 33 Gardener
Phillip Jones son in law U 30 ag lab
all b Deerhurst
HO107 1974 118 1
Suz
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Necromancer
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1851 - HO107/1974; Folio: 118; Page: 1 - Deerhurst
'Apperley'
William Matty 76 Head Pauper - Ag Lab Deerhurst
Patience Matty 66 Wife do
Thomas Jones 33 son in law Gardener do
Phillip Jones 30 son in law Ag Lab do
might as well have it in stereo 
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suzard
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LOL
at least we are all singing from the same hymn sheet!!!!!
Can't locate patience and William in 1841 -but this is possibly one of Patience's sons with a matty
1841
Deerhurst
Mary Helford? 45 ag lab
Ann 15
Phillip Jones 21 ag alb
James Matty 27 ag lab
all b in county
HO107 369 8 23
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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pedroparker
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thanks Springbok, Suzard and Past Master
Brilliant! so quick too! great response 
I suspected that he might have re-married, as he lived a good few years after his 1st wife's death.
Pedro
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I've looked thru the 9 pages of District 6 (Apperley) in 1841, and neither he nor Patience can be seen.
Interestingly there are 5 blank lines at the top of the first page, ending in a '//', so there was a Household there .....
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pedroparker
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William did have a brother James ch1782 Deerhurst, maybe a son of his in 1841? so it is quite possibly a rellie Suzard
strange that there is a blank household, was this normal? perhaps they were just all busy at the time, but knowing my luck it is them 
pedro
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Springbok
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Hi again
HO/107/369/8/Page 9
Mistranscibed as Maltos.
Joseph Matty age 40 Ag Lab. b. in county
Sarah wife " 35 "
Charles 12 "
Samuel 10 "
Maria 11 "
George 6 "
William 8 Months "
The address is just Apperly or Apperly /Whitfield Depending on which part of the Village . Same as Williams area in 1851
Possibly son James?
Spring
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Sorry Suzard. Didn't notice your 1841 find of a James with a Jones
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Dorset: Ackerman,Bungey,Bunter Chant,Hyle
Islington:Bedford, Eaton,Wilkins
Beds,Fulham: Brazier
Shoreditch: Burton,Coverdale
Essex ,Clerkenwell:Craswell,Cresswell
St.Lukes Middx:Doughty, Dunkley
Andover/IOW/Fulham:Gasser
Fulham: Neal
Bucks:Putnam,Wingrove
Bullwell.Notts:Wilkinson
Clerkenwell/Islington:Wyllie
Herts/ Tottenham/Walthamstow:Young
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trish1120
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From IGI
Marriage
William MATTY
Patience JONES
25 September 1830, Deerhurst, Gloucester, England
Trish
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pedroparker
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Thanks Trish, i had his 1st wife and dates, but not Patience
Thanks again to everyone, i've struggled for a while to find theese 2 census's without any joy, your help is much appreciated.
pedro
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