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Steve G
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Christening District of Hastings ?
« on: Friday 04 September 09 16:30 UTC (UK) »

I have a brick wall in my Sarah AVERY. She'd said to been born c. 1795 in Eastbourne. 1841 and 1871 Census' say that.

 I've also picked up (though I don't trust it) from a " One World Tree " somewhere along the line, that she married Jacob CURTIS in 1815. What ever.

 Thing is; I've now found a Sarah Avery being christened, 4-Dec-1795 in Hastings.

 Was wondering; Could Hastings have been some sort of 'Ecclesiastical Parish' sort of thing? Bit like Winchester used to be named for records from much of Hampshire?

 In short: What's the chances of an Eastbourne girl being down as christened over in Hastings?

 Sorry. I'm just not up on this religious stuff. All new to me  Undecided

Thanks for any pointers.
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 September 09 18:37 UTC (UK) »

Everywhere in England is in an Ecclesiastical Parish "sort of thing"   Smiley . A baptism is usualy in the parish in which the child is born, but could be anywhere, to suit the family.


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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 September 09 18:49 UTC (UK) »

I see her baptism was in the Parish of  All Saints, Hastings, Sussex, England.
There were 13 parishes, in the Hastings Poor Law Union, viz.:- All Saints, Fairlight, Guestling, Holy Trinity (or Priory), Ore, Pett, St. Andrew, St. Clement, St. Leonard, St. Mary Bulverhithe, St. Mary-in-the-Castle, St. Mary Magdalen, and St. Michael-on-the-Rock. http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/SSX/Hastings/
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 September 09 18:54 UTC (UK) »

Besides your alleged marriage to Jacob CURTIS in 1815, there were apparently two other Sarah AVERY marriages in Sussex in 1815.  You need to go carefully  Shocked
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 September 09 19:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I found 3 marraiges of a Sarah Avery in Sussex in the year 1815 - but not one of them is to a Jacob Curtis

1. Hastings All Saints, East Sussex,  Date: 28 Feb 1818: Sarah AVERY & William ROFF
2. Chailey, East Sussex,  Date: 30 Sep 1815: Sarah AVERY & Thomas TINGLEY; witnessed by Rich SANDLES;  Jn KNAPP
3. Guestling, East Sussex,  Date: 23 Jul 1815: Sarah AVARY & Thomas BURGESS

That baptism you referred to is

All Saints, 4th Dec 1815, Sarah Avery, daughter of Edward & Mary - but there is not an Edward Avery marrying a Mary in Sussex during the time period of the baptism

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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 September 09 00:22 UTC (UK) »

 Damn  Sad 'Just' what I wanted to come home to ~ Not.

I mean, I hardly expected anyone to be handing me the mystery on a plate. But this is harsh!

 Off the top of my head; I Know her name was Sarah Avery. Because I have half a dozen BC's of their kids. " Sarah Curtis. Formerly known as Avery. " No getting round that one.

 Some years back now, I was even in touch with like the god of Sussex Avery's. Guy had every Avery in Sussex, back to the year dot ..... Nuff'n!

 Jacob Curtis? You tell me! Appears, pushing middle age, on the earliest census', in Portsea. Already hitched to Sarah Avery. Proclaiming himself to be from London / Middlesex. I have Certified chapter and verse, right down to myself here. Just seems like Nothing I do will get me past his belated appearance in Portsea.

 These two are just doing my head in. The other side? I have hope for. It just needs time and working on. But, Jacob and Sarah ....?  Undecided

 Thanks for the input, peeps. Much appreciated. At least it completely destroys another, potential path or enquiry.
 
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 September 09 02:24 UTC (UK) »

Why not check the IGI at www.familysearch.org? There's an extracted marriage at Portsea, Hampshire, on 6 Sept 1815 between Jacob Curtis and Sarah Avery. What ever

1851/61/71 say that Sarah was born in Eastbourne. 1841 merely says that she wasn't born in Hampshire
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            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 September 09 03:04 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that, BB. I agree, it does look (being lifted from 'original' MF) like a record of JC x SA.

So, I suppose, that at least cements the earlier mentioned marriage. I'm happy to present that as a Citation. Thanks again.

But, it still tells me nothing more about these peoples backgrounds  Sad Where either of them sprung from. Maybe this is just to be my lot.

'Night  Wink
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 September 09 03:08 UTC (UK) »

Eastbourne baptisms on the IGI only appear to go up to 1744. Have you looked at the Eastbourne parish register microfilm at your nearest LDS Family History Centre for Sarah's baptism?
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 September 09 06:58 UTC (UK) »

From the SFHG Database

Sarah Avery baptised 21 May 1797 St Mary Eastbourne
Father: William
Mother: Sarah

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Sean
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Steve G
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 September 09 11:46 UTC (UK) »

 Shocked Sean, that's just astounding! How on earth did ye find her? What is the " SFHG Database " ? I want to go and have a look at it  Grin

 Anyway, Thank You, Sean. At a stroke ye've settled one half of one of the biggest bugbears in my entire ancestry. Quality  Smiley


BB; I'd be spending my life scouring the MF's at the LDS, if there was a centre in reach of me. Only, I don't know of one and suspect there isn't one. I'm in Co. Leitrim, see? Not a lot goes on around here  Wink
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 September 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

Steve,

The SFHG (Sussex Family History Group) database is accessible to members; the membership is about £12 a year and well worth it as you can see. You can find them at www.sfhg.org.uk

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Sean
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 September 09 11:57 UTC (UK) »

Sean; Is that data base available on line? If so, my cheque'll be in the post first thing! I have people in Sussex  Smiley
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 September 09 12:00 UTC (UK) »

Yes it is online.
It has a lot of baptisms and they have started putting some burials on as well.
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Re: Christening District of Hastings ?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 September 09 12:13 UTC (UK) »

O M G !  Shocked  Tell them a new member's on his way!

Sean; I've been joining FH 'Groups', one after another. Tracking my way across the south coast. Finding them largely useless  Undecided Sounds like Sussex has truly broken the mould here. Holding stuff I can actually access without a Passport!

 That's it. I'm in!  Grin Much kudos to ye!
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