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Topic: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney (Read 1317 times)
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Lucy2
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from FREE BMD (UK)
BIRTHS - June - 1909
WHITNEY - Ernest Charles - reg'd. Greenwich (London)
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diana2646
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Hi Althea, how strange a man born in N.Z. with the same name as my Dad. I am not aware of any relatives in Wellington. My Dad's parents were Tom Ivor Whitney, born South Wales 1885 and Margaret Thomas born South Wales also. They married 1907 and my Dad was born Neath South Wales Nov.1908. In 1911 census they had moved to Southwark, London, where Tom Ivor was in the Metropolitan Police. My Father had a sister called Eunice, born 1906 out of Wedlock. I have gone back 1835 with my family tree and all were born in Wales.
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
Feltham: West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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diana2646
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Hi Lucy2, thanks for info. I got info about my Dad's voyage when he was 18 from 'Find my Past'. I saw also the Ernest Whitney,but don't think any relation, but quite a coincidence! My Dad's family are all from South Wales. What I would like to find out is the name of the family that my Dad stayed with and worked for, all I know it was a farm and between 1926 & 1929. I have tried to attach a photo of him and another man who is from N.Z. but was not successful. I thought someone from New Zealand may recognise him as their Father or Grandfather possibly. (My Dad was born Neath, South Wales, 1908. Father was Tom Ivor Whitney, born 1885, South Wales.
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
Feltham: West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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diana2646
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Hi Arranroots, thanks for info. By the way, I know Neath is in Wales, was just a mistake! All my family are from South Wales, My Grandfather was Tom Ivor Whitney, born 1885 Wales. They moved to Southwark in London, are on 1911 census. don't know of the Ivor, Harold, Lucy and baby Edith. Tom Ivor had brother - Ralph Percy, who moved to Dorking, Surrey when married, and my Great Grandfather was David Whitney, also born Wales. Have tried to attach a photo I have of my Dad and a New Zealand man, but not been able to do it. Thought someone in N.Z. might recognise the man as their Father or Grandfather possibly.
Regards, Di
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
Feltham: West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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Lucy2
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Hi Diana 
Obviously we'd like to be able to help you with this query, but it's not exactly easy. Firstly, there is the time factor - 80 odd years ago. Sure you might get lucky and someone looking at RootsChat may see the photo (you plan to post), and recognise someone from it.
Secondly, as your Father was only in New Zealand for a brief time, then he probably didn't register to vote, and may not have had his name published in a Post Office (or similar) directory. "A farm job" might also have taken him to a rural area outside of Wellington ?
Electoral rolls / directories, are not available online for this period, and it means that a RootsChat volunteer, would need to visit a library or similar, in order to search for information.
Perhaps purchasing the image of the passenger list to Wellington in 1927, might give you additional clues ?
Lu
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diana2646
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Hi Mk2_Zephr, (Nice car by the way, I remember them well). There was no estrangement in the family. My Dad was Victor Whitney, his Father was Tom Ivor Whitney & his mother Margaret, married in 1907. My Dad was born in 1908 in Neath, South Wales and then they moved to Southwark in London, where my Grandfather was in the Metropolitan Police. Thanks for your interest,
Di
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
Feltham: West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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diana2646
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Hi Lu, I did get the passenger lists of my Dad's voyages, but it just said bound for Wellington, no more info. I have to try again to attach the photo, but its not the same as normal attaching, and I tried a couple of times, but couldn't do it, so I will have to look into it further. I did email Wellington Library, and they said that as my Dad was only 18 when he went and nearly 21 when he came back (due to the illness of his Mother in London) he wouldn't be on any Electoral Rolls, so they couldn't help me.
Di
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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Lucy2
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Diana
If you were to get further details from the passenger list, it may of course also help identify the "Ernest WHITNEY b. 1909" ?
I wouldn't totally discount him as being a relative.
I know you say you've got your family history back to 1835, but often "additional cousins" we never knew we had, pop up and surprise us.
Perhaps a look-up on 1911 census might find an "Ernest WHITNEY" and his family ?
Lu
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Lucy2
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Hi
Ooops ... our posts, crossed.
Ah yes, that is correct, "21 years" was the age of eligibility for voting ... (I thought he may have just managed to squeeze in, if as you say, he was born in 1908).
He was of course very young to be undertaking such an adventure. That also makes me think that perhaps he was in the company of this Ernest WHITNEY
* Do you know what type of farming work he was engaged in ?
(Was he a farmer on his return to England ?)
Lu
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Lucy2
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Hi again
So you have the passenger list ?
Can you tell us ....
* Name of ship
* Date it arrived in Wellington
.... and * was Ernest WHITNEY on that same voyage ?
Lu
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Lucy2
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Aaah ! 
Back in reply # 15, I gave a birth reference for "an Ernest Charles WHITNEY - 1909, who seemed might be a likely candidate for the person travelling to Wellington.
Have just found a marriage (on the NZ index) for an Ernest Charles WHITNEY who wed some 11 years after his arrival here. I'll have a look and see what other information I can find for him.
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diana2646
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Hi Lucy, when checking the passenger lists for my Dad's voyage to N.Z. I saw Ernest Whitney, but was on a different page, so didn't print it. The details I have are:- Departure from Southampton, England 17th June, 1927, on s.s.Tamaroa and it just says bound for Wellington, New Zealand. My Dad was down as a 'butcher' but I have photos of him milking cows and one where he has been shooting rabbits. As far as I know, my Dad said he travelled on his own, but I will look into Ernest Whitney and see if I can find anything out,
Di
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
Feltham: West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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Lucy2
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Update - Ernest Charles WHITNEY
Hmmm ... he doesn't appear to have died in New Zealand (and probably unlikely that he is still alive) ?
[There is though a death for his wife. ]
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Lucy2
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Hi Diana
Do you think there might be any more clues in those photos which were taken in NZ ?
[If you are needing help to load photos on RootsChat, there is a section (somewhere here) which gives instructions.
Or you could ask any questions you have about same, on the "Technical board". ]
Lu
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diana2646
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Hi Lu, thanks again, I have tried again to load photos, but don't think I have done it (again). Will take your advice and try and find out what I am doing wrong! I forgot to tell you my Father's date of birth is 22nd November, 1908, so don't know if he will be on Register or not! Will have to sign off now, as its my son's 40th Birthday today and have promised to go and help with preparations for the BBQ tonight, thanks,
Di
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Whitney:South Wales/West Knoyle,Wiltshire/Melbury Abbas,Dorset.
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