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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #45 on: Friday 18 September 09 09:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Las Camelias, that is fantastic to know Ralph had another son!  He wasn't on the 1911 census info that I got, thank you.

Hi Lu, I was fascinated  to read about the scheme organised by N.Z. Farmers!  Perhaps my Dad was part of it. It will be interesting to know what you find out, thanks, Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #46 on: Friday 18 September 09 10:06 UTC (UK) »

Another spooky co-incidence Diana! 

My grandfather had a half brother who died at West View Castle Lane Hadleigh in Essex in 1945.   I put a request on the Essex board to ask if anyone knew the area personally and was told West View was (don't know if it still is) owned by the SA.

I contacted Salvation Army Heritage and asked if they had any records that would tell me more - I was curious as to why he was so far from his home in rural Wiltshire.  They were unable to turn up anything on my relation personally, but told me that West View was an SA training farm.  An aged aunt in (strangely, again!) NZ had told me some years before all this, that she thought this relation had died in a Salvation Army Hostel in London, so she wasn't far off the mark even though she is now 92!

Now I can't wait to hear if Lu turns up anything about the farming scheme she mentions.

LC
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #47 on: Friday 18 September 09 10:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Althea

Hmm ... I'd been thinking of the Flock House farm training scheme in Manawatu which brought young lads from England in the 1920's.    However the particpants in this scheme were the sons (and later, also daughters) of deceased or disabled seamen from the Royal Navy and Mercantile Marine (WW1).    I've since checked a list of those who came from England (it also mentioned the ships they travelled by) ... alas, no WHITNEY (or LYMBERG) names, nor any who travelled on the "Tamaroa".

Lu
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #48 on: Friday 18 September 09 11:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Diana

As you can see in my previous post, the farm training scheme I'd thought may have been a possibility, had some "qualifications for participants", attached to it.

*    Are you able perhaps, to find your Father on a passenger list, returning to the UK ?    There's a chance that such a list, may just show his last address in New Zealand.

Lu
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #49 on: Friday 18 September 09 14:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lu, I have got the return journey passenger list for my Dad.  It was also on the 'Tamaroa' but unfortunately, it gives the address he was going to in London, which was his Mother's house at 70 Warwick Ave, Maida Vale, London. All it says in the column- Country of last permanent residence-New Zealand. He arrived at Southampton 20th Dec. 1929.  He had to come home as he had a cable from his sister, to say his Mother was seriously ill, but by the time he got home she had recovered!  I forgot to mention, don't know if it is any help, the address he had when he left London to go to N.Z. was 125 Fifth Ave, Queens Park, London W.10. His Dad had died the previous year in March, 1926.
Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #50 on: Friday 18 September 09 14:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi LC, yes, we seem to have had quite a few co-incidences eh!  I'm really hoping Lucy or Althea will turn something up, although they haven't got a lot of clues to go on really, but I am keeping my fingers crossed!

Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #51 on: Friday 18 September 09 22:44 UTC (UK) »

Some wiki entries on the Salvation Army farm in england are interesting read, in some cases they seemed to train farmers to go and work in other lands..maybe away of spreading the word and skills
Bye
Althea
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 19 September 09 08:49 UTC (UK) »

The UK site has some old photographs of the Hadleigh Farm Boys and mentions their NZ project but not in any depth

www1.salvationarmy.org.uk

LC




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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 19 September 09 10:14 UTC (UK) »

thanks LC, I will have a look on it,

Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #54 on: Monday 28 September 09 15:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lucy and althea,  wondered if you had managed to find anything out about my Dad, Victor Whitney. I know you don't have much to go on, so it's a bit of a long shot.  I found out about a magazine in N.Z. called Woman's Weekly. they have a notice-board page, where they put enquiries like mine on, and see if there is any response.  I have sent the picture to them with a message, although it says on their web-site, that there is a 12 month waiting list!  But anyway, thought I would give it a go!
Best wishes,
Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #55 on: Monday 28 September 09 17:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi
No I haven't found anymore. If you do reach a deadend i still have that feeling that finding the NZ Whitneys with same name person may have some hope..but thats probably a red herring.

Had the NZ branch of Salvation army archives been contacted?
Bye
Althea
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Varcoe, Collicoat, Chapman: Roche area,Cornwall
Cornes & Graham: Ireland/Shropshire, Barker, Palin: Shropshire
McDougall, Morren: Ireland, Earl, Redgen, Steward: Suffolk

Info: Thames, New Zealand Genealogy Resources:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html
NZSG Mem#18951 CFHS Mem#13723

Info: Breage, Germoe & Godolphin Cornwall : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~althea/index.html
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #56 on: Monday 28 September 09 18:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Di

The web-site for the New Zealand telephone directories is: http://yellow.co.nz/whitepages/search/New+Zealand/Whitney-1.html

Using this site you will find 41 listings under that name.

Best wishes with your search.

Kiskeam
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 08:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Althea,  I hadn't contacted the N.Z. Salvation Army, as I didn't think my Dad had anything to do with them, not being orphaned and living with his family at home in the U.K., but I will give it a go!  I still think it's strange that there was another Whitney on the same voyage, but I can't find any connection.

Hi Kiskeam, thanks for the web-site, I will have a look,

Bye, Di
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Re: My Father- Victor David Ivor Whitney
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 11:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Diana

No, I haven't made any further searches.    Unfortunately, this really is, "needle in the haystack" sort of stuff  ... we just don't have anything to "go on".   Sad 

And you're correct ... the "Salvation Army connection" applied to "Ernest WHITNEY (and Harold LYMBERG) ... and not to your Dad.

Lu


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