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Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« on: Monday 07 September 09 09:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jannic,

Could you please see if you have a baptism for a William Charles Charman born 1868.  The birth registration that I think may be correct is 1868, Kingston Jun 2a 271.

He is listed on the census as being born in Ham Common.  I have been advised to request a lookup on here as you kindly offer to do so.

I have his marriage certificate (1889) and his father is noted as William Charles Charman.  I have no idea who his mother is. 

It would be great if you can see if you have one that ties in with those names!  He is proving to be quite elusive!

Regards Emma

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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 September 09 15:33 UTC (UK) »
If you have ordered the cert as you mentioned in another post hopefully you won't have to wait long

I only found 1 in a barracks 1881, obviously no father's name given, the only other one on a previous census had a father John and d of b 1865

Time will tell if you have the right information, witnesses are also a good scource of information on marriage certs

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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 September 09 18:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Maud,

I have not seen that one in barracks before in 1981.  Could you let me have the ref no or location. 

I will update the request as soon as the certificate comes. 

Thanks for your time

Emma
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 September 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »
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1881
RG11/1007
FOLIO 78
PAGE 9
William Charman aged 18 born Ham
Grand Shaft Barracks Western Heights Dover
Private Infantry

1871
RG10/862
FOLIO 61
PAGE12
William C Charman aged 7 born Ham

You asked for the refs, If you can't get this info please let me know



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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 10:10 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Maud,

I will see if I can find them, I think the one in barracks would be too old but I will have a look at both anyway.  Any problems I will let you know.

Emma
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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 10:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Louisa,

I have just noticed that I have been calling you Maud!  How rude of me.  Just wanted to apologise!  I am having a look now.   Also waiting for the postman with that certificate.  They seem to be taking a while these last few weeks.

Thanks again

Emma
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 September 09 15:38 UTC (UK) »
Not to worry about my name.

Happy hunting, hope it is what you are after

LM
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Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi Emma,

So sorry to take soooo long in getting back to you.  Life has had far more downs than up recently and genealogy was the last thing on my mind.  I'll try and make it up to you now.

entry    born        baptised              name           mother    surname    abode  occupation
1140 - 15 Apr - 13 Sep 1868 - Charles William - Martha - CHARMAN - Ham - Spinster

This looks like Martha's marriage.

entry - date                   groom    age         condition occupation abode      father
39 - 16 Mar 1872   John, WEST - 21   Bachelor   Baker   Ham   Frederick   WEST, Wheelwright   

                                          bride                                     father
39 - 16 Mar 1872   Martha   CHARMAN   - 21 - Spinster - Ham - John CHARMAN, Labourer

witnesses
Frederick   BUTTON   Sarah   HONE

Once again my sincerest apologies,
Jan      
   
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Re: Baptism at St Andrew, Ham. Lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »
Thank you so much.  I have not been able to get online either as have been hectic and recently returned to work after maternity!

I got the birth certificate with the mother Martha and no father is noted.  It is strange because on his marriage certificate his father is listed as William Charles Charman.  I think now that this must have been a mistake and that he was illegitimate. 

A relative has recently told me that Martha married a West so looks like it is the right family!  Will probably never know his father then!!

Thanks to everyone for your help

Emma
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