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Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« on: Tuesday 08 September 09 19:54 UTC (UK) »

I have posted a similar message on the Kent board and it has been suggested thatI try the registers for Salehurst.
I know that my 3times g grandfather John Nightingale married Jane Stiles i Hawkhurst in Oct 1797.  am trying to find Janes .parents . A helpful answer from rootschat told me that it did not look as if Stiles as a Hawkhurst family and could be over the border.
I am also looking for the parents of my 4 times ggrandmother |Elizabeth Dunk who married John Nightingale (father of above)  in Hawkhurst in 1770.
Any guidelines would be appreciated.
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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 07:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ringrose

I've just been through the Salehurst baptisms on the SFHG database and there are no Stiles baptisms at all.

Was there a particular reason to try Salehurst and not somewhere else??

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 07:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi kerry
It was just an idea from a fellow researcher as she had found a marriage in Salehust with Nightoingale witnesses. I suppose it could be any local village.Like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Good to hear fro you again Kerry--I follow quite a few of your postings--you are a busy lady.
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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 08:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Ringrose

Don't know about busy, obsessed maybe  Roll Eyes Grin

There are lots of Stiles being baptised in Wadhurst which is even closer to Hawkhurst and on a direct route.

There seems to be a family being baptised to Edward and Jane Stiles who married at Lamberhurst on 3 November 1767 but no Jane, I just wonder if she was born and baptised in Lamberhurst.  There first child baptised in Wadhurst is Elizabeth in 1777 which seems a bit unlikely to be their first child.

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 08:05 UTC (UK) »

I was right  Grin

I had a quick look on Hugh Wallis

Jane Styles baptised at Lamberhurst 13 Sep 1772 to Edward and Jane.

I bet there are other children

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 10:25 UTC (UK) »

Well done kerry Grin

It was me who suggested Ringrose try Sussex
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,405076.msg2735042.html#msg2735042
as some of the STILES' are connected to Salehurst.

I know from experience what the families on the Kent/Sussex border get up to!

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »

Lamberhurst is quite nearby isnt it.The Nightingale family were farmers in hoppicking and I believe Lamberhurst was a hop picking area. I always try to see how these couples met when travel was not so convenient. Of course we also have to contend with a different spelling. I did find on the woodchurch ancestry website  3 possible linked Stiles marriages--
16 Aug1796 John Stiles and a Jane Mummery at Hawkhust -quickly followed by the Nightingale marriage in Oct 1797  and in 1806  an Ann Stiles marrying Charles Couchman at Hawkhurst.Maybe Ann John and Jane are siblings.
THanks for you interest
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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 12:20 UTC (UK) »

Well done kerry Grin

It was me who suggested Ringrose try Sussex
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,405076.msg2735042.html#msg2735042
as some of the STILES' are connected to Salehurst.

I know from experience what the families on the Kent/Sussex border get up to!

Betty

Why is it that a border causes such chaos, put a border into the equation and the families go crazy, back and forth, anywhere else they stay in a village for a hundreds of years.  Well that's my experience anyway!  Grin

Ringrose, Lamberhurst is just down the road from Wadhurst and not far from Hawkhurst either and yes I believe there were lots of hop farms once.  Scotney Castle, just on the bypass outside of Lamberhurst is once again producing ale from its own hops and there aren't too many others left these days. 

Although on my way home at Witherden Bridge between Ticehurst and Burwash there is a hop field just about ready for picking, one of the only ones left in Sussex now. 

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 12:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Sussex & Kent had masses of Hop Field`s (Oh happy day`s) Cheesy

Yes Kerry, Loads of Hop Fields  used to be at Lamberhurst.There was one near the Lamberhurst Bypass,sadly that`s gone now.

Loads all the way up to Paddock Wood & surrounding areas.

One of the biggest was Guinesses at Bodiam.

Hope this helps Ringrose

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 13:02 UTC (UK) »

Near Sandhurst is Risden Lane where there is an oast and a cottage called Nightingale Cottage which I found 2 years ago. Looking at the tithe maps I know that this was my Nightingales oast as he had lots of fields around.It looked as if it was going to be holiday lets when we saw it. Many of the Nightingale family are buried in Sandhurst Church,
My ggrandfather John Nightingale however ends up at Giffords farm near Dallington  and  later at Heath Mill near Pulborough.
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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 14:02 UTC (UK) »

Hop  Fields  Huh Hop Gardens please.   Grin
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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 14:12 UTC (UK) »

Sorry petmas, stand corrected  Roll Eyes Grin Wink

They don't much look like gardens these days though  Sad just little pockets  Sad

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Re: Salehurst --Nightingale /Dunk/and Stiles families
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 September 09 14:20 UTC (UK) »

Sad isn't it, I spent most of my working life with various subsidiaries of Whitbread. The area around the Hop Farm at Beltring was a jungle for miles at this time of the year now just open fields. There was a massive Hop Marketing Board store at Paddock Wood that has gone too.
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