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at0m
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"Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:01 UTC (UK) »

My dad lived the first 14 years of his life, 1912-1926, at a place officially called Annfield Place I think, but which the locals called 'Cornwall', a miners village purpose-built around the 1860s. The name reflected the origins of the first occupants, long gone by the time my dad's family moved in. Annfield Plain covered a rather bigger area than Annfield Place, and when we visited Beamish Museum dad said the Coop shop relocated there had been the Annfield Plain Coop where his mam shopped.

Dad left Durham in 1926, and returned on his bike about 3 years later to find the old village cleared. In retirement he wrote and illustrated with drawings and location maps an account of 'Cornwall'. It's on the internet at:

http://cornwall-in-durham.blogspot.com/

Tom Swailes


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JenB
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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

This is brilliant.

My grandmother lived in Annfield Plain for most of her long life. She remembered 'Cornwall' very well.
Here's one of her memories from around 1900 I think:

Mr Trevelyan used to come around with a horse and cart selling fruit and vegetables. He was one of the Cornish tin-miners who came here after the tin mines closed. They got work at the Billy Pit and the houses they lived in, which were where Annfield Plain is now, were nicknamed ‘Cornwall’. Mr Trevelyan used to call "’Taters, apples, onions and them long things”. These were bananas which we’d never seen and mother never bought them.

Jennifer


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tom,
What an amazing insight to a time now almost forgotten

I really enjoyed reading it and had tears in my eyes at the end and was so happy for your Father to achieve his dream.

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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

You can see Annfield Place on the 1894-1899 map at http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm Put the post code DH98NP into search. It is still called Annfield Place.

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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »

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a place officially called Annfield Place I think, but which the locals called 'Cornwall'

The area was actually called 'Cornwall or Annfield Place' in the 1881 census. RG 11 / 4943 / folio 67 / page 13.

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at0m
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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 September 09 11:06 UTC (UK) »

Very interesting to know that it was at least semi-officially Cornwall in the 1881 census; and to see Annfield Place on the old map too.

Tom


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 September 09 13:20 UTC (UK) »

This was a joy to read, thank you! Genie


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 September 09 13:25 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to rootschat Tom. Thank you for the link - I have put it into my favourites. Thank you for posting it.


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JenB
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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 September 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »

I have a (privately published) book called 'The Story of Annfield Plain and District' by F.J. Wade - possibly one of the most comprehensive histories of Annfield Plain and its people in existence!

In this he says that 'Cornwall' was originally known as 'The Cement Rows' which were built in about 1870 by the owners of the South Derwent Coal Company.

Jennifer


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 September 09 18:13 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: JenB on Thursday 10 September 09 14:00 UTC (UK)

Didn't realise Fred Wade's manuscripts had been published. How did you get hold of a copy? I believe Hanging Stone is mentioned too where I have an interest.

Tom, that is a gem, many thanks for sharing it.

J.T.A.


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 September 09 18:21 UTC (UK) »

The copy I have belonged to my grandmother. It was originally produced by the author in 1966, and is hand-typed.

The edition I've got is a reprint made by Mr Wade's daughters in 1986, in which they say that there were only 'a handful' of copies made of the original edition. It doesn't say how many copies were made of the 2nd edition.

There is a very small section about Hanging Stone - I will PM you the details.

You can also learn about 'The Ghost of Kyo Bogs' and 'The Phantom Avenger' if you wish Grin

Jennifer


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 September 09 18:51 UTC (UK) »

You can get a copy from ANNFIELD PLAIN FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY
The Story of Annfield Plain & District £ 6.50
See http://www.annfieldplain-fhs.co.uk/other_books.htm

Stan


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 September 09 10:11 UTC (UK) »

Tom, Thank you for sharing the account of "Cornwall" - it's an absolute gem!

Thanks also to Jen for sharing her grandmother's memories of the area!

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Linda from Murton
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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 September 09 14:45 UTC (UK) »

This is a wonderful posting and has solved a mystery which has puzzled me for years.

One branch of our family came north from Cornwall in the 1860s and settled in Murton, Co. Durham. The men had all been tin miners and came to work at the local colliery. In fact an area of Murton was dubbed Cornwall. Even now its nickname remains and all the streets are named after places in Cornwall.

They mystery which this posting has solved is that when Richard Raymond, the head of the family, died, his widow remarried - a chap called Stephens who had also been born in Cornwall. They moved away from Murton and the 1881 census shows the family living 11 Kyo Lane, Kyo. I believe Kyo Lane is only a stones throw from Annfield Place (Plain). They must have heard about this "Cornwall" and moved to be near possible friends.

Its amazing, you wait eight years and another mystery is solved. Thank you so much and can I congratulate you on a lovely link.

Kind regards and happy hunting. Linda from Murton.


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Re: "Cornwall" - A Durham Mining Village
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 September 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

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A tidy house is the sign of a broken computer

I love this. I knew 'A tidy house is a sign of a wasted life', but this one is new to me Cheesy

Another Linda


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