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Topic: John Tucker born 1870 (Read 1054 times)
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tootsiepie
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Go to the following IGI page, and just play about with various spellings- the results below show the only Tower births in Longford . Also check the vaarious spellings on the Irish civil index, and on BRSgenealogy.
http://204.9.225.200./Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
If you copy and paste the whole link above,and put it in browser, rather than just clicking, it will take you straight to search page.
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Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland
Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire
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Plus all variations in spellings
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GAJM
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You could order the marriage cert on
www.groireland.ie
Give them this information
Marriage of Andrew Tower and Ann Casey (on the familysearch pilot site the spelling is Tower)
Granard Registration District
Date: 1865
Volume 13 Page 170
It is a good idea to include all this information as it makes their search alot easier.
There is not a specific field on the form for volume and page number but i usually write it in with the date.
You can use Granard Registration District, Longford as the address.
Also appears that Margaret Toher daughter of Andrew Toher and Ann Casey married Joseph Connaughton on 15-Apr-1910 in Longford source of information is the LDS site and Margaret died 15-Aug-1971. This information was submitted on the LDS website so subject to proof.
And this is them in 1911 Census
Margaret Toher 1911 Census
Also this Anne Toher in 1911 Census might be worth keeping in mind she is living in Killoe parish in 1911 which is just under 3 miles from Ballinalee.
Anne Toher 1911 Census
A James Connelly married a Lizzie Toher Apr-Jun 1902 Longford Registration District Volume 3 Pg 201.
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shanew147
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Dublin, Ireland
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this looks like a very promising lead .. following these Toher/Tougher/Tucker and now possibly Tower, spelling variations. I've heard of surname being misheard on entry into to the US, but this case seems to have all the variation even before they left Ireland !
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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tootsiepie
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It's a new on me too, with such different spellings. On the other hand Tougher (I think it's that spelling) brings up Tower on IGI. It must have been the accent, perhaps a bit gutteral and indecipherable to delicate registrar ears--Only a guess though.
I also searched Ellis Island, I couldn't see anything for definate, but may have missed it. BUT they brought up many more spelling alternatives.
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Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland
Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire
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Plus all variations in spellings
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shanew147
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Dublin, Ireland
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I can understand Tougher being misheard as Tucker either on entry into the US or sometime later on..
At least this new line of enquiry has links to Co. Longford and your original thoughts on the county of origin.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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tootsiepie
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On the other hand Tougher (I think it's that spelling) brings up Tower on IGI.
Have to amend the above , not those spelings, must have been 2 others of the many variations.
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Flynn,Cox, Slaven-Co Longford
Donnelly,McGeown,Hughes,McCrory- Co Armagh
Hargan,Curran,Bradley,Grant,Peoples ,Patton,Dunn-Donegal
Conway,Degnan,McDonald,Cassidy,Kelly,Fenmore,Ryans,Kilkenny,Murray-Ireland/England/Scotland
Reeves,Fox,Williams-Shropshire/Staffordshire/Scotland
Gill,Kane-I.O.M/England/Scotland
Murdoch,Bruce,Rankine,Ballantyne-Ayrshire
McCutchen,McAdam,Wright-Kirkcudbright,Dumfries,Ayrshire
And others
Plus all variations in spellings
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lucytuck
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Thank you all so much. I did copy the 1911 census for an Ann Toher. Thank you for your help. 
???I am not sure if this is the right ancester. It seems Ireland is harder to trace ancesters in than England, what with the name changes. My John Tucker would have been in the United States before 1890, as he was married in 1892 in New Jersey. She came from County Leitrim. They also lived in New York. He did leave Elizabeth Callahan (with 4 children). She remarried two more times, the last time to a "unknown Sloan". She is also in the suffragette parades n 1919 in New York. But I have no other information about John Tucker. Just that he was married one time before Elizabeth and that he left her with 4 children.
I did print out the 1911 census for Ann Toher. Thank you all.
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GAJM
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Hi lucytuck,
Where did you originally get the information his parents were Andrew Tucker and Anne Casey from Longford was this on his death or marriage cert etc?
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lucytuck
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No, oral history from Elizabeth Callahan (who came from County Leitrim) to her daughter, to her daughter (my aunt). We have nothing in writing except the marriage in 1892 in Newark, New Jersey. And they did live in Brooklyn.
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lucytuck
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Thank you so much-- I have been going through, and although I have not yet found Tucker or Callahan, I did find my great grandfather and his father -- Moore.
I will keep searching through. Thanks a million! 
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maureenms
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Hello
JOhn " JAck " tucker was my great grandfather. His parents were andrew tucker and mary cleary. He married elizabeth callahan from co leitrim in newark NJ @ st patricks in 1892.
I am looking for jack's birthplace and the name of the town, also where his parents are buried.
I don't know if he ever became a US citizen. Is is possible the Family name Togher was anglicized at ellis island as my grandparents spoke gaelic and perhaps it sounded as tucker?
Interesting and may be why I could not find the records in Ireland.
Any info woud be appreciated. Elizabeth Callahan was born spet 8 , 1873 and I am trying to find out where i. the town in county leitrim and her siblings. Jack's as well.
I assume Jack's first wife caey died as he married elizabeth in nj in 1892
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maureenms
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Elizabeth Callahan married for a second time to Pop sloane probably a nickname.
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maureenms
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This is my great grandfather "Name: John Tucker
b 1869 married 1892 st patricks newark nj, to Elizabeth callahan from co leitrim b sept 8, 1871 parents james callahan and elizabeth leahy
any info on the town in Ireland JOhn was born in would be appreciated.
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lucytuck
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WOW!
Elizabeth Callahan, born September 8, 1873 in County Leitrim, Ireland, parents James Callahan and Catherine Leahy, came to America in 1888, and married John Tucker in 1892 in Newark New Jersey and had 4 children with him. Then he left (or died). She married someone else (don't know his name), but he died. Then she married Mr. Sloan (don't know first name). He also died. I remember her, a widow, my great grandmother, and sat with her in Brooklyn in 1958 in her apartment, but I have no photos. She died in Brooklyn April 25, 1963.
I am guessing that we have the same great grandmother!
John Tucker, born in County Longford, Ireland, (don't know the town) iin (1870 (or 1869)), parents Andrew Tucker and Ann Casey, married someone first (don't know who or if in Ireland or USA.) Then he married Elizabeth Callahan in 1892 in Newark New Jersey. He left her after fathering 4 children. One of those children was George Tucker, my grandfather, born September 27, 1900 in Brooklyn, who married Mae McDemott in Brooklyn and had 4 children and who died July 13, 1961 in Brooklyn.
I am guessing that we have the same great grandfather. Who was your great grandmother married to John Tucker?
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