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Topic: Lily Disbrey b 7 Dysons Yard, Leeds 1897 (Read 103 times)
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jasmineg
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My grandmother's birth certificate shows that she was born on 21st March 1897, to Sarah and William Disbrey, a railway labourer, at 7 Dysons Yard, in the sub district of North Leeds.
I am curious about Dysons Yard and where abouts in Leeds this was, and what it might have been like at this time.
I am also wondering what sort of time was allowed for the registration of a birth as it was not registered until 4th May 1897, and I always thought her birthday was the 14th March.
I think that the Disbreys were only brief visitors to Leeds as they had certainly been in Cardiff in 1896 when Sarah had an illigitimate child, Adough Paul Disbrey, who had died at the age of 7 weeks having "died in bed, overlaid by his mother, while she was under the influence of drink"
The husband disappeared by the time of the 1901 Census and Sarah was living with another man in Staffordshire. Whether the husband was the father of Lily Disbery, I think, would be impossible to find out but it would be interesting to find out if he was with her in Leeds.
Would anyone have any idea where I could find out more about William Disbrey and his occupation as a railway labourer?
Any suggestions, clues, advice would be very gratefully received!
Many thanks
Julia
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CaroleW
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What was Sarah's maiden name on the birth cert
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CaroleW
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The 1901 entry shows her as unmarried
William Newbold 40 single b Kidsgrove labourer in iron works
Sarah Disbrey 36 single - housekeeper b Carmarthen
Walter C Disbrey 10 adopted son b Cardiff
Lily Disbrey 4 b Leeds
Annie Disbrey 1 b Newcastle Staffs
RG13 Piece 2588 Folio 65 Page 11
It's interesting that Walter is shown as adopted son - but Lily and Annie are shown as daughters - see 1891 entry below
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CaroleW
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1891 census for Penarth Glamorgan - slightly different spelling
William Disbery 45 club manager b Woodbridge Suffolk
Sarah 31 b Carmarthen
Walter C 4 months b Penarth
RG12 Piece 4402 Folio 48 Page 39
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CaroleW
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Free BMD has an 1881 marriage in Cardiff to a Sarah Griffiths but it seems too early for them to have had only one child in 1891
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jasmineg
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Thank you!
Sarah's maiden name was Griffiths and she married William Disbrey on 1st August 1881 at St Mary the Virgin Church in Cardiff, William said he was aged 30 and a ships steward.
They lived in Penarth for a while but I think that William may have gone away to sea on a ship called "Blackbraes", so I am not sure that he was ever in Leeds, but I cannot work out why Sarah was there.
I am really not sure whether William was Lily's father!
I have been puzzling this all for a while and thought I might try and see if anyone else could come up with ideas of how I could find out more, especially the time in Leeds.
Sarah went on to marry Newbold whom she said she was the housekeeper, in the 1901 census. I am sure there was never a divorce and I have an inkling that William Disbery ( different spelling!) could have died in September 1914 in The Royal Alfred Institution in Bevedere, Kent. I have the Death Certificate.
When Sarah married William Newbold in 1905 in Newchapel, Staffordshire she said she was a widow and that her father was William Disbery , a sailor. I think that she was confused!
Sarah died on the 15th November 1917 in North Stafford Infirmary, along with all her secrets!
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CaroleW
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Interesting!! - much better than my boring ancestors.
There is a William Disbury aged 57 b Woodbridge Suffolk on the 1901 for St Ives Hunts with wife Emma. However - I can't find an 1891 entry for them
William Disbury 57 gardner b Woodbridge Suffolk
Emma 52 charwoman b St Ives Hunts
RG13 Piece 1480 Folio 34 Page 16
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CaroleW
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What were there respective fathers names and occupations on the marriage cert
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jasmineg
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The details on the 1881 Certificate are
William Griffiths - Dead
William Disbrey Dead
The witnesses do not appear to be family members.
I have Sarah's birth certificate as well. I also have Walter Cecil's certificate ( the son), but nothing for William Disbery ( or Disbrey) who appears to come from Woodbridge, Suffolk
Sarah was in January 1859 to William Griffiths and Ann ( formerly Morgans) , a seaman in the Merchant Service. She was born in Quay Street, Carmarthen.
I do have a fair few mysteries in my Family Tree and sit and mull over how I can find an answer, so I am very grateful for any help!
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CaroleW
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This must be William on the 1851 for Sutton - Sutton was in the Woodbridge registration district. All b Sutton Suffolk except Maria
William Disbry 44 farmers bailiff
Maria 40 b Pettaugh Suffolk
Ann 10
Caroline 7
Sarah 6
William 4
Mary A 2
HO107 Piece 1801 Folio 445 Page 22
See below - wrong person
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CaroleW
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1861 for Sutton
William Disbry 54 farm bailiff
Maria 50
William 14
Elizabeth 9
RG9 Piece 1169 Folio 93 Page 6
In 1871 William Disbury aged 24 b Sutton Suffolk is in lodgings in Cambridge - occupation Railway Porter
Just found him in 1881 married to Harriet so wrong William
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jasmineg
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Thank you , except if you continue with the railway porter he appears in all the subsequent censuses marrying , from memory , in Hitchen, Herts so I think I discounted him! At one point I did think that there was more bigamy!
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jasmineg
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Oh same conclusion!
It is all very confusing!!
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