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betton39
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Another bellamy Challenge!
« on: Friday 11 September 09 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Hoping someone can help me out there - this is a good one
At the moment i am systematically working through my research, and none of the researchers i have come across has this  Grin

Mary Bellamy Daughter of John and Mary
Born: in 1765 Laughterton
Most have her dying in 1799 aged 14
However....

I have in my posession her brother's will written in 1837
and it states
"I leave to my sister MARY WATSON, of East Kirkby in the county of Lincoln one hundred pounds"


Can anyone find some info on her for me???
Apparently she was still alive , kicking and possibly with a husband


Thank you so much
Your help is really valuable!
Betton
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Geoff-E
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 September 09 18:18 UTC (UK) »

Easy one-

Marriage 26 Jan 1815, East Kirkby
Joseph WATSON to Mary BELLAMY

Burials
1 Sept 1841 East Kirkby, Mary WATSON (75)
13 Oct 1821 East Kirkby, Joseph WATSON (56)

FreeReg doesn't mention her husband http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Burials&RecordID=1728935

1841
East Kirkby
Mary WATSON 75 Ind
Sarah 15
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beady
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 September 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »

Mary Bellamy bn 1765
buried age 14
---- 1779  !!!!


Buried 1799-- wrong Mary
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 September 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »

There is one tree on Ancestry that suggests death in 1779.
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 September 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Betton
Have you looked at Family Search.org for Marys family.  Someone has taken it back to 1688 to her GGrandparents. It also seems that Marys Mum was called Elizabeth Becket and it was her Grandma who was called Mary. Her great Gran was called Ann Mellish and she was b in 1688. Her Dad John also had a Dad called John and also his Dad was John.
I cant find the death at aged 14 or their marriage. The rest is interesting.
regards Sandymc
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 September 09 21:50 UTC (UK) »

The will is very graphic and William  - her brother also names some of the other brothers and sisters - so i know i have a mary Watson.
William also goes onto say thay the money maty be passed on to her grand children

So i presume that joseph and mary watson did have a family.
Sadly on the will - although  it only mentions the bellamy's by names, namely the brothers called Christopher (kester) and Thomas.
one that i also have a will for and who is named as a nephew is "JOHN BELLAMY OF SLEAFOD" - i believe he was a publican, but i haven't managed to work out of which brothers he belonged to!

i know there is a mary bellamy dying in 1799 aged 14 but william distinctly states "My sister Mary Watson."

Betton
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 September 09 22:51 UTC (UK) »

The will is very graphic and William  - her brother also names some of the other brothers and sisters - so i know i have a mary Watson.
William also goes onto say thay the money may be passed on to her grand children

If she married in 1815 as BELLAMY she was pushing 50.  In that case it's likely that any kids she had earlier were illegitimate.  Perhaps Sarah (aged 15+ in 1841) was a child of one of her illegitimates.
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betton39
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 September 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »

oh.
Looks like i have hit a brick wall with this generation really - ah well!

John and Elizabeth n. Beckett had 11 Children in all.

 1. Mary - who married Joseph Watson (incidentally, i put him in the IgI last night and come up with nothing  Embarrassed

2. Elizabeth born and died 1768
3. Samuel  Born: 1769 (no info except Baptism)
4. Johnathon 1769 - 1771
5. Thomas - 1772 - 1833 married Sarah Hird
6. Elizabeth Bellamy 1773 (no further info)
7. Rebbecca Bellamy 1776 1776 (no Further info)
8. Millicent 1776 - 1779
9.  Kester (Christopher) 1781 - 1838 he married Mary Bates
10. William 1761 - 1836 ("The Will") - who never married or had a family
11. John 1763 - 1829 Married Mary Ellis

Logically discounting what i do know "John Bellamy of Sleaford" must belong to one of the Bellamy men...


I have a will for a John Bellamy who died 12th November 1839 in New Sleaford - the will was proved 14th may 1840. he was an innkeeper and was married to a Mary.
Oddly it does intimate that he has children, but doesn't name them, but states they shall have legacies when they reach 21...
He doesn't mention leaving any money to the Bellamy family  Undecided
so that leaves me a little lost
It may have been easier for me to  find Something out about the Watson's apart from we have one name - Sarah who will be 25 on the next census - thus no doubt possibly married.

Betton
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 September 09 15:36 UTC (UK) »

11. John 1763 - 1829 Married Mary Ellis NBI gives age as 60

I have a will for a John Bellamy who died 12th November 1839 in New Sleaford aged 43 - the will was proved 14th may 1840. he was an innkeeper and was married to a Mary.
Oddly it does intimate that he has children, but doesn't name them, but states they shall have legacies when they reach 21...

Mary 40 Innkeper in Sleaford in 1841 ... 3 children visiting in London in 1851 (born Seaford) - I suspect elder ones may actually have been born Boston.  Fairly certain in fact.

Mary (45 Caythorpe) still keeping Lion Hotel in 1851.  I believe she had been Mary WADESON (1801 Caythorpe), married John BELLAMY at Timberland in 1826.  I suspect her husband had been John BELLAMY (1798 Timberland).
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 September 09 17:21 UTC (UK) »

Have found census for
1841 - mary as inn keeper aged 40
1851 - lion hotel aged 45???
1861 - Croydon with as a visitor to  annie waters aged 55
* "annie waters is 46" - possible sister or somthing?  Undecided
1871 - in Cheltenham  with 36 year onl daughter "Annie Hodge"
1881 - Cheltenham again with same family

found the children in 1851 in shoreditch
wonder who mary williams is???
mary bellamy is 45 - and mary williams is 70, but born in somerset.
possibly related.
couldnt find anymore out about the boys
Will look and try to find out Who the parents were of the late john bellamy born in tiberland - any ideas???

Thanks
Betton

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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 September 09 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Will look and try to find out Who the parents were of the late john bellamy born in timberland - any ideas???

Perhaps Robert BELLAMY and Elizabeth OLDFIELD (m 1796 Blankney, not far away)

It appeared from the kids' baptisms that they may have moved to Woodhall ...

Burials at Woodhall
8 Feb 1839 Elizabeth BELLAMY (66)
17 Jan 1844 Robert BELLAMY (73) (age given as 70 in 1841)

For some reason, your list of Kettlethorpe BELLAMYs omitted Robert 1777
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 September 09 18:22 UTC (UK) »

1861 - Croydon with as a visitor to  annie waters aged 55
* "annie waters is 46" - possible sister or somthing?  Undecided

Could be
Marriages Mar 1838
WADESON    Ann         Sleaford    14   605    
WATERS    Thomas         Sleaford    14   605

22 Feb 1838 at Sleaford
Thomas WATERS (son of Thomas) to Ann WADESON (dau of James)

Mary's dad was also James Smiley (IGI)
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 September 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

couldnt find anymore out about the boys

1861
James BELLAMY 32 in Sleaford
Joseph BELLAMY 30 in Sleaford
Robert BELLAMY 27 (with cousins who I am not investigating Wink )
As I said, born in Boston
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betton39
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 September 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »

 I have found Robert in 1861 in morton living with those cousins
William Rodgers
When i had a look for him in 1851 - he was head of the house and his parents were alive they were Charles Rodgers (b. 1789 Morton) and Elizabeth b. (1795)
The reason i chased them was as being cousins, their mother might have been a Bellamy, however i do have an elizabeth Bellamy, (who would have been their aunty - but she married a william Denman) - so that shot my theory in the foot.
I presume that the conclusion must be That Elizabeth Rodgers must have been a Wadeson.  Smiley
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Re: Another bellamy Challenge!
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 September 09 14:37 UTC (UK) »

When i had a look for him in 1851 - he was head of the house and his parents were alive they were Charles Rodgers (b. 1789 Morton) and Elizabeth b. (1795)

1851 says Elizabeth born Moulton so the 1813 marriage there of Charles RODGERS to Elizabeth NEWTON seems relevant.
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