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Topic: Joseph Outram -which colliery did he manage ? (Read 399 times)
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winston
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HI
this link here gives a J Outram at Thrybergh Hall could this also be your Joseph?
http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/mhn/1896-45.htm
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks
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dennford
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Great stuff; I had been looking for that site yesterday but somehow it had gone missing - thnks Wendy.
Being not too far apart it looks as though he was managing two pits for the one company.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus -------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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Thrybergh Hall colliery was later known as Kilnhurst colliery.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus -------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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It would seem that the Charlesworth family owned som eight collieries, three of which were in the Rotherham area. Both Warren vale and Thrybergh Hall are described as Major collieries.
See this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/073x/
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus -------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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Wow ! What a fabulous book ! It's complete too.
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Are you sure? if so please help me, I can only get a handfull of pages and unfortunately hard copy of the book seems to be around US$250 
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus -------Philippines --- Bohol
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Sandymc47
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Hi Charlotte, Just a note regarding your query as to why chilren were literate from poor families. I come from Leeds where there were many poor families, and including mine. My Uncle was at school at 2 years old in the 1920's, and both he and my Mum could read and write and do arithmatic. Basically thats all as they didnt get many other subjects but the 3 R's. Plus the handwriting was great of course. Also in Leeds there is a place called Armley Mills which is well worth a visit if you go to Leeds. This is a preserved cotton mill with all the machinery, the water wheel, and you can hear the dreadful noise of the machines. Plus they have a small classroom where the younger kids had to do a bit of school work in between working and also waiting for their parents to finish work. No NSPCC in those days. regards Sandymc
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Midgley, Fowler, Routledge, Hewitt, Thompson, Almond, Kilvington, Waite, Binks, Cantrel, Pearson, Kaye, Fielding, Appleyard, Buck, Gatenby, Firth, all Yorkshire for centuaries except the Routledge from Cumbria..
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dennford
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Another thing I wonder about is how in the very early 19th C the children of weavers were literate. Where did they learn to write, and develop such clear well formed writing? So many questions  charlotte Hi Charlotte, Just a note regarding your query as to why chilren were literate from poor families. I come from Leeds where there were many poor families, and including mine. My Uncle was at school at 2 years old in the 1920's, and both he and my Mum could read and write and do arithmatic. Basically thats all as they didnt get many other subjects but the 3 R's. Plus the handwriting was great of course. Also in Leeds there is a place called Armley Mills which is well worth a visit if you go to Leeds. This is a preserved cotton mill with all the machinery, the water wheel, and you can hear the dreadful noise of the machines. Plus they have a small classroom where the younger kids had to do a bit of school work in between working and also waiting for their parents to finish work. No NSPCC in those days. regards Sandymc
It is also worth noting that although many employers treated thier workers with contempt, there were a handfull of very wealthy industrialists that would educate, house and provide medical treatment. Classic examples of this would have been Titus Salt of Saltaire fame, not too far from Sandymc's Leeds. Salt gave his workers benefits that even by todays standards could be considered generous. Meanwhile over in Grizzly's neck of the woods were the Fitzwilliams of Wentworth, owners of many mines and steelworks; yet they provided schools and housing.
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus -------Philippines --- Bohol
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