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giraffe
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Would anyone have any information about this Church? My grandparents married there in 1909.
I really don't know where to start looking. Also, my great-aunt was a leading lady with the Trinity Operatic Society, which performed Gilbert and Sullivan operettas in the locality, around 1947. I think the Society was linked to the Church. Any ideas gratefully received.
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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giraffe
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Thanks for the link Willow, I'll do that tomorrow. I thought it may be you who replies, your knowledge of "my" area is so extensive. I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks again,
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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giraffe
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Hi Willow, I checked the link, but found that it is a Catholic Church. On my grandparents' Certified Copy Marriage Cert it says "1909 marriage performed at Holy Trinity Church, in the parish of Ettingshall, Wolverhampton Stafford. Then beneath the personal details it says "Married in the Parish Church according to the rites and ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me Jno B Colley (Curate)". So I don't think it can be the same one. Of course I realise it could have been demolished years ago 
The actual date of the marriage was 25th December, 1909, and they both give their addresses as No6 St Mary's Terrace (grandfather) and No2 St Mary's Terrace, (grandmother) Ettingshall.
In the 1911 Census they are living with in-laws in George Street, Ettingshall. Since my grandfaher's side of the family were all staunch Methodists, I'm wondering if there was some 'ecclesiastical' arrangement between the Churches, and although there was a Methodist Chapel in George Street I'm not sure when it was built.
Any ideas most welcome, and if you have any look-ups you need in Worcester . . . .
First 10 years I lived in Wolves, 2nd 10 years in Shropshire, working in Wolves, then moved away.
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi giraffe,
I just looked through that web page and think it means that it is what used to be called "High Church" but definitely CofE and not Roman Catholic.
So it would have been the "Established Church". It belongs to the Lichfield Diocese whereas a Catholic church in that area would belong to Birmingham Archdiocese (Diocese of Minervia? if I remember correctly)..
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Kaliannan
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Holy Trinity Church Ettingshall is shown on the 1901 map on the South side of Millfields road just before the junction of Gibbet Lane ( Now Ward Street) Later this site would have been about where the Tarmac plant used to be or the Sprinfield Social Club..
Trinity Operatic Society still exists, however it was formed at Trinity Church which was a methodist church situated on Compton road Wolverhampton. It was peculiar in that it had some Cof E services as part of a covenant.
i hope this is of help.
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giraffe
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Thank you so much Kaliannan, This looks like the Church I was after, especially since my grandparents walked to their wedding in midwinter, and they lived not far from this one. The only old map I have of Ettingshall has such small print and is not very detailed. Could you tell me where you got yours please?
Also I think the Compton Road Methodist Trinity Church would be the one where my great- uncle and aunt worshipped. He played the organ, and she was in the choir, also she was leading lady in many of the Operatic Society productions. Would your map show the location of this church too, and do you know how I could contact anyone from the Society?
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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Kaliannan
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The maps are Godfrey Edition Old Ordnance Survey Maps .Wolverhampton N W 1901 for the Compton Road Trinity Church Map No. 62.10. Ettingshall 1901 For Holy Trinity Church Map No. 62.15.
www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk they cost about £2.50 plus postage.
Trinity Operatic do not have a website but I will try to find acontact for you.
Phil
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Kaliannan
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Trinity methodist Church is shown on the map only as Chapel.
I am told that a contact for Trinity Operatic Society is
Chris Hallett
107 Aldersley Road, Wolverhampton
tel 01902 741121
hope this helps,
Phil
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giraffe
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That's great Phil, will post the results as soon as I can, thanks again.
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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Kaliannan
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I know a few older people from Trinity Methodist Church and Trinity Operatic. If you could give names and dates I could possibly enquire for you.
Phil
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giraffe
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Thank you Phil,
My gt.uncle was Vincent Hartland (died 1968), and I think he was the pianist for the Society, and also he was the Church organist. They lived in St. Phillip's Avenue, off Church Road.
His wife, my gt.aunt was Maude, nee Johnson, who was leading lady for many years, and also sang in the church choir. I remember seeing her as 'Yum Yum' in The Mikado, and have a couple of photos somewhere of her in costume . She had the musical title of 'Madam', and was billed (theatrically) in her maiden name. She died in about 1988, having been a resident at 'Engelberg' in Ash Hill Compton for many years. (This was a Methodist Care Home). They didn't have any children.
I would be interested in any form of the history of the Society, and of the Church, or any indication of where I could find them? I haven't had a chance yet to find the maps of the Church, but will do so soon.
Off track a little, but is Beckminster Methodist Church still there?
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PRICE Edward (c.1860) Harry PRICE (1891) Frank PRICE (c.1897), Arthur PRICE (1884). Compton, Tettenhall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.
GARFIELD, Edgbaston and Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Wolverhampton and Bilston
ATKINS, Wolverhamptonand Bilston
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Kaliannan
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I have enquired of a former member of Trinity Operatic and got this information.They remember Maude as the soprano lead and believe her to have been a singing teacher hence the madame. They think she had left before 1952 when they became members and possibly her last role was in Yeoman of The Guard. I don't have any other information I am afraid.
Engleberg still exists as a home.
Beckminster Church is very active and has a web site.
This web site has a picture of Trinity Church on Compton Road view 150 .The Quarter House, a pub recently demolished. All that is left of the church is the War Memorial in the grounds of some flats.
http://shireweb.net/wolverhamptonbak/pictureslist.php?pageno=&RecPerPage=ALL
Phil
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