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Topic: 1851 Census AHOGHILL. CRAIGS (Read 190 times)
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abunile
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Can anybody put me right about the 1851 census remains.
I am wondering if the Craig parish census was saved and is complete. The reason I am curious is I am researching the HOLMES family in the area and three show up in Griffiths in Ballyconnelly, Craigs Parish.
James Holmes. 27 Acres
Mary Anne Holmes. 11 Acres
John Holmes., 13 Acres.
I believe the Griffiths valuation years were 1861 and 62, so I would have expected the three Holmes to be showing on the 1851 census since they are all reasonable sized farmers in 1862. My main interest is in Mary Anne Holmes as she could be my Gtgtgtgrandmother.
On that note does anyone know if it would be normal for a widow to be named on Griffiths or the eldest son. I think she may be the widow of Henry but have no proof as yet!! 
Most grateful for any help and advice from all.
kind regards
abunile
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aghadowey
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1851 census is mentioned in ANTRIM RESOURCES and you can check yourself for any Holmes households-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369523.0.html
It's entirely possible that a widow might be the head of the household but could also be another family member (not always eldest son) so there's really no way of checking just from Griffith's Valuation.
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abunile
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Thanks again Aghadowey,
As usual great help and great advice, the Ontario Genealogical Society pdf is particularly useful for searches.
Unfortunately my guys and gals did not show up on the census remnants , anyway I got a brief dream I could make progress. 
abunile
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scotmum
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Sorry can't assist with your particular enquiry, but just wondered if you had also looked at the headstone inscriptions on the Braid website:
http://www.thebraid.com/genealogy.aspx
as their are a number of entries for Holmes of Ballyconnelly, including one for a Mary Ann, erected by her son George.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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abunile
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Thanks for your input Scotmum,
I've looked at the Braids website you mentioned, it looks as if that Mary Anne was born around 1804; so I think that may be just a little early for her to be my ancestor as that puts her at 45 years giving birth to my gtgtgtgrandfather William DOB c1850 the son of Henry. She is probably the Mary Anne in Griffiths though.
With reference to my comments above regarding the Holmes not appearing on the 1851 census but showing on the Griffiths 1862. I did not realise that small tenent farmers seem to move about so much, depending on many factors I suppose. I have been researching a little this morning and find many of the Ballyconnelly residents of 1851 have gone by 1862. My focal point is Gortfad as I have a marriage in Ahoghill between William Holmes (son of Henry)and Isabella Mcateer resident of Gortfad in 1874.
Do you think that a ten mile radius of Gortfad about right to search for Henry or should I expand it bearing in mind the apparent movements of the small farmers in the area at the time.
You input on this post and my others is much appreciated.
Kind regards
Abunile
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scotmum
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Firstly, don't immediately rule out a 45yr old giving birth, as this was not uncommon in a timescale when families were large and spread out over a number of years......sometimes up to 20 or so between youngest to eldest.
Regarding movement, even a ten mile area can be smaller than necessary, as many folks moved further afield than we might imagine, however, it is certainly a good starting point.
For example, the Ordnance Survey memoirs of the 1830's for Ahoghill Parish includes a list of folks who emigrated as well as a longer list of those who migrated, usually to the Glasgow area, annually for seasonal work.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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