Midsummer
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Wendy
Sorry for the delay in reply about Marriage Certificate. That would be terrific if you can send me a copy. My copy was the original but it was water damaged and quite a bit of information has been lost.
So thanks again.
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Midsummer
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Hi everyone again
Thank you so much for what you have found on my Edward Mallowes.
So could you please tell me what is the correct spelling for his name, because I have been given 2 spellings - MALLOWES, MALLOWS the second MALLOWS is the spelling on my fathers Birth Extract.
Midsummer
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winston
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HI Everyone who has an interest in ths thread
Since Edward was in NEW ZEALAND I went looking on a New Zealand newspapers Website called papers past which is free to view.
On that site they have the most wonderful readup of the Divorce between Edward and Jane Ellen in which it mentions a sister of Edward.
Take a look on the newspaper site its wonderful to read it all. If you enter your search term in the Exact Phrase box you'll find abt 6 mentions of charles's bankruptcy and again for Edwards divorce read them all as I cant remember which one gives the most info regarding the divorce that is.
I then gleaned this info from the NZ BMDs page
So I think I can conclude that Charles and Julia took the children to New Zealand sometime as early as 1872/73 as Charles is mentioned as been Bankrupt over in NZ in the years of 1873/74.
They had a daughter called Flora/Florence in 1877 she later married a John hardy in 1895
Henry, Edwards brother married in 1888 to an Elizabeth Edith Webb
There is a marriage for Mary Ann Mallowes in 1893 to a William Smith
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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Midsummer
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Wendy
Thank you for the information on Edwards divorce to Jane (I already had that information so thank you).
You mentioned some dates in 1870 plus about Charles and Julie (I am sorry I do not know these people) they are not my Charles because he was born nearly 20 years later, so are you telling me that there are other MALLOWES who moved to New Zealand before my Edward.
Thanks again
Mid summer
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winston
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HI Midsummer
I've sent on the copy of the marriage cert to you.
To clarify for you Midsummer, Charles Mallowes and Jane Mallowes nee Lake are Edwards parents therefore making them Charles Edward Mallowes grandparents.
Charles and Jane upstick from England and all arrive in New Zealand at least by Dec 1873 as is evident in this newspaper link. You'll have to scroll down to his name as there are cases before his
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=WI18740423.2.10.1&srpos=77&e=-------10--71----2%22mallowes%22-all
If link not worked then go to paperspast via Google and enter under exact search just the surname of Mallowes then you'll have to go through the list of results till you find one titled Bankruptcy sitting April23 1874 that the juicy one which confirms that family details of when and how they arrived in NZ.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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winston
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Hi
If you follow this link
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/search.php
and enter the surname of Mallows without the "e" and enter the dates of 01/01/1908 - 01/01/1910 and search all Cemeteries and search Burials You'll see a death entry Charles father of your Edward if you click on the surname once the search has been done you see details of his plot number - now if you repeat the search for the surname of Mallowes with the "e" and alter the dates to search between 1897 and 1902. You'll see details of Edwards mother and a younger sister for Edward.
Take note of each plot number I think you'll find there all the same.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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Midsummer
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Wendy,
Thank you for the copy of Edward and Jane's Marriage Certificate.
My copy was so badly water damaged that it was impossible to see parents names.
So if possible can you please find when the Mallowes family immigrated, was it to Australia first or was it New Zealand. If it was New Zealand that explaines why I could never find immigration details for Australia.
Also thank you for the site Paperspast, I had a quick look yesterday, so I will now go back and have a really good look.
Its funny everyone has told me to start looking for information on my ancestors with family, but it seems that I was giving the wrong information about Edward taking the 2 oldest children to New Zealand, when they all went to New Zealand.
So thanks again
Midsummer
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winston
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Hi midsummer
Unless I've read it wrong the link in my post 3 messages back shows you that the family consisting of
Charles = Edwards dad
Julia = Edwards mum
and siblings of Edward went to NZ in 1872 aboard the Jessie Readman
this link shows the ship they travelled on in the right time frame but their names are not listed as they were just "navvies to work on the railways" you may get more info from the place where this website got its info.
heres the link
http://www.yesteryears.co.nz/shipping/passlists/jessiereadman.html
and if you scroll down through the page till you get to this bit of text
London (22 Sep 1872) to Wellington (14 Dec 1872)
then you can scroll to the bottom to see what I mean abt them not being shown in name form on the web.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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Midsummer
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Wendy
Hate to be a pest, but any chance of findind information on when Jane Ellen Mallowes and children (and how many children) came back to Australia.
Thanks again
Midsummer
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Midsummer
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Wendy
Have you had a chance to find for me please, when Jane and children arrived back in Australia and how many children came back with her.
Midsummer
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winston
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HI
Sorry for not replying sooner, too many things on at once. to answer your question - No I never was able to find anything not even a date as to when Jane went back.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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Midsummer
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Wendy
Thank you for your reply, but I think if you dont mind I will close off with the Mallowes family and if at a later date I require more information can I start up another forum on this family. So thank you everyone for all of your help with the Mallowes family.
Midsummer
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Midsummer
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Wendy
I have found another Mallowes but I am not sure if this person is part of my lot, so can you see if you can find anything more on this one.
Dorothy May Mary Campbell Mallowes born 1894 to Jane Ellen and Edward Mallowes
Thanks Midsummer
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Midsummer
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Wendy
Sorry should have asked you in previous message.
Is there any chance that you can find for me when Edward left New Zealand and arrived in Australia.
And then when Jane Ellen, Edward and children all returned to New Zealand.
Thanks
Midsummer
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Hi I'm new here and found this an interesting thread.
Did anyone reply with the interpretation of the handwriting? Here's mine...
"... Justice of the Peace duly appointed to give consent in cases of minority for the Bridegroom & Robert Mobley? the father of the bride".
My Mallows are from Norfolk.
Philip
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