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Steve G
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Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 12:43 UTC (UK) »

 Just clutching at straws here, as one does ..... I have a marriage listed on the IGI. 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire. Just struck me that someone must've found it, for it to get on there in the first place.

 Pretty obvious next question then; Where might they have found it? Could it still be held Portsmouth Records Office? If so; What information might it hold, being from that date?

 Cheers for any clues Smiley

Steve.
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 September 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Steve

Was it extracted or submitted?    If it was submitted don't bank on it being there it could just be assumed as they often are.  Huh

Rosie
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Steve G
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 September 09 13:00 UTC (UK) »

 Ooh! That's handy then. It says it's Extracted  Smiley

I don't know if this link'll take ye there, or throw up the Search page?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp  Huh

 Either way; Am I in with a shout then?
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 September 09 13:45 UTC (UK) »

Who are you looking for?
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
Steve G
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 September 09 13:54 UTC (UK) »

Well, I've found them, in as much as they're shown in Extraction on the IGI. Jacob Curtis X Sarah Avery.

Thanks to the help of a sterling member on the Sussex board, I also have Sarah's Baptism ~ and my own membership of the SFHG!  Grin

Just now wondering if Pompey may hold that original Marriage record. And, if so, whether I might glean anything else from it  Smiley

Greedy!  Grin
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 September 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »

You should find copies of the original registers to view on microfilm at either at Portsmouth Records Office or the Hampshire Records Office, Winchester.

The entry may tell if they were of full age (over 21) or a minor, which parish they were from, whether they married by banns or licence and whether they could sign their name.  It will also list 2 witnesses who may or may not be family members.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 September 09 17:53 UTC (UK) »

The marriage in the I.G.I was in St Mary's Portsea Hampshire Not Portsmouth Wink

Celia

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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 September 09 19:42 UTC (UK) »

 No worries, Celia. I'm well aware of the 1901 change. Only, having walked past the place most days for about forty five years, it's always been in Fratton. Portsea now being a small, 'select' area of the south west corner of Pompey.

I think I unconsciously used 'Portsmouth' as a heads up to any members in the city. Anyway .....


Bearkat; Cheers for that. I have their ages, close as I'm likely to. " Parish " they were born? Hmm. That could be worth pursuing. I only have Jacob as having been born in " London ". Parish within London could be a breaker.

Witnesses too has made me realise something; I just got it into my head that Jacob came down alone. But, why on earth should he? He may well have come with his entire family! Finding another Curtis as witness would be immensely exciting  Smiley

Well, if no one here surfaces to say they'd be up for it. I've not long joined the HGS. I haven't even had time to study their stuff yet. Perhaps they have a protocol for getting look ups done?

Thanks, all. This is certainly food for thought. Maybe even a trace of optimism after all these years?

Oh. And I'm in Co. Leitrim, by the way. Hampshire's a little off my beaten track these days!  Grin
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 September 09 21:02 UTC (UK) »

It may not be the parish where they were born - it could just be the parish they were living in when they married.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
Steve G
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 September 09 21:32 UTC (UK) »

 Ah. That's a good point, Bearkat. But, never mind. Ye response still shook me out of this groundless notion that Jacob had set out on his own to come to Pompey. That in itself has removed a potentially very important blind spot.

And, should I ever discover he had a Curtis as a witness? I'll go ballistic! That one. 'small' point could completely alter how I view things. And would be doing so from the very start of my 'known' history  Smiley


Cheers to Little Nell for shifting this to what the slight morphing of the thread required too  Wink
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 September 09 01:51 UTC (UK) »

As you found the extract on IGI you would be able to view a microfilm of the parish registers at a Family History Centre.  Locations of these are on the Family Search website and I see there are quite a few in Co Leitrim.

I live in Australia so this has been a great resource for me, allowing me to see photos of the actual registers to compare signatures and see witnesses etc- certainly easier than flying 12000 miles!

In my experience they may take a few weeks to get the film in but it's worth the wait.  Hopethat helps!

Judith
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 September 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

 Sad I almost freaked out completely there myself, Judith, seeing that list of local places known to me. Unfortunately, those listings aren't quite what they at first appear.

 Truth is, they only have three FHC's in all of Eire. Nearest one to me is Dublin. Wales is probably closer  Shocked

 Never mind. Now I know the score, I have two possible options, look. Find some kind soul who frequents either or the Hampshire based Records Offices. Or else just someone who does have access to a LDSFHC. That, surely, must run into Thousands of people?

 Irony is, I used to live in another place and spent three years passing by a Saints place. I simply never realised their potential! Never once thought to venture inside and ask. I could've had all this cleared up years ago!  Roll Eyes
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 September 09 21:14 UTC (UK) »

oh Steve - bummer lol. My local one is literally  a 5minute drive away. Better to come to Australia.   Cool Tongue
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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 October 09 19:47 UTC (UK) »

Just wonder if your Jacob Curtis was a miller and lived in Portsmouth, because there is certainly a lot of information on him in the local papers, the property he owned and sold, even the story of a sack race he took part in in 1807!

Did he die in 1846, 30th October, aged 49,  leaving a widow and three sons and did he have a company called Jacob and George Curtis, corn mechants, Landport, Portsea, if so then his death was reported in the local paper too!!

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Re: Marriage, 1815, Portsmouth, Hampshire ?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 October 09 20:00 UTC (UK) »

 Cheers, Tom. Unfortunately, that'd be the head of what I've long since come to refer to as " The Posh Curtis's ". That guy had a place in Arundel St, apparently? Only time one of mine got in the paper, he was 'as a hand cart' in a Portsea pub!

 Saying that though; More recent information is actually making me start to wonder about this well to do lot. Seems one of mine did actually 'make it'. Your mention has just reminded me ..... I wonder?

 Have ye any links to the stuff ye mention, please? Is it on line?

Only, I'm actively in 1911, as we speak, trying to find a Curtis' father in law. As I'm thinking Curtis, this may be a good time to dig out my old notes and have a fresh look at those I simply considered too posh to be mine  Wink

 Cheers!  Smiley
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