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brephy
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Hawarden
« on: Tuesday 22 September 09 13:56 UTC (UK) »

In late 1800s Wood Lane and Paradise Farm existed in this area.  Does anyone know of a connection between the two, and do either still exist
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 23:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi brephy, I know Wood Lane still exists I pass it every time I go to the archives in Hawarden Smiley.

I don't know about Paradise Farm Sad

What makes you think there is a connection between the two Undecided?

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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 14:35 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Paul.   I have the birth certificate of my grandfather born Wood Lane May 1867 and the person who registered the birth was "Occupier" of Wood Lane  - no number.  His name was Weigh and was married to a probable relation.  I know that a Weigh family lived at Paradise Farm 1881.  I wondered if it was in Wood Lane and if grandfather could have been born there.  What is is like now?
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 17:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

I'm afraid Paradise Farm no longer exists. It disappeared under what is now St David's Park. In fact, if I remember correctly, the Weigh family used to live there right up until the land was built on or certainly until the late(ish) 1960's.

The farm was off Wood Lane. In fact nearby there is a small housing developement called Paradise Place.

I'll make some enquiries and if they prove positive I'll let you know.

Good luck with your research.
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 September 09 13:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi  Thankyou very much for that information and for offering to send any more.  Interesting that the Weigh Family lived there for so long.  It does appear that grandfather was born at the farm as there is no number stated.  Perhaps there were no more houses in Wood Lane at that time.  I should like to know anything you can discover.

Thanks again
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 September 09 22:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi brephy, if you could post some Christian names I'll see if I can find any thing in the archives.

Paul.
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 September 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou.  The man who registered the birth of my grandfather Aaron Phythian in 1867 was Edward Weigh.   He was a farmer from Hawarden when he married Jane Yates of Liverpool in 1851.  Aaron's mother Sarah Phythian was the daughter of Sarah nee Yates also born Liverpool.  In 1871, Sarah and Aaron were back home in Haydock with the family.  I would like to know all about Jane and Edward and any children.  Edward's father was Robert Weigh, also a farmer.

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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 October 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

Yes, I was right. Paradise Farm was occupied by the Weigh family right up until the land was bought by the developers for building houses and thus the land now forms part of St Davids Park estate. Construction of the park started in the 80's if I remember correctly.

Can't help any further at this stage.
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou.  I am pleased to know now more about Paradise farm and the Weigh family.  I am now looking for Jane's family in Liverpool. Thanks again.
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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 18:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello Brephy.....

Not sure if this will help, but here is a list of The Weigh children, born to Robert Weigh jnr

Robert Weigh - Sarah Jones , married January 30th 1815, Robert was a labourer

Sydney Weigh, daughter of Robert Weigh and Sarah Jones / born 14 Feb 1815 baptised 1 March
Occupation , Farmer, Wood Lane

EDWARD WEIGH, son of Robert Weigh and Sarah Jones / born 3rd Oct 1816 , baptised 27th October
Occupation , Labourer , Ewloe

Joseph Weigh, son of Robert and Sarah / born 28th February 1818 baptised May 29th
Occupation Labourer, Ewloe

Samuel , son of Robert and Sarah / born 26th December 1819, baptised 9th Jan 1820
Occupation Labourer, Wood Lane

The following children, are also the children of Robert and Sarah. On their baptims, he is described as a Small Farmer, of Wood Lane

Thomas, born 13th November 1821
John , born 11th March 1823
Mary , born 13th May 1825
Jane, born 1st October 1827
Elizabeth , born 30th September 1829

Hope this helps

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Re: Hawarden
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 October 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou JeannieR.  I am really getting a picture of the Weigh family now and where my grandfather was born.  It does look as though Edward, his father and probably other family members worked on Paradise Farm and they lived in the farm house or perhaps a cottage on Wood  Lane belonging to the farm.  They were such a large family, I doubt they would have had room for my great grandmother if she had not been related.

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