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onebubblygal
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Quebec 1923
« on: Tuesday 22 September 09 22:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi I have been informed of a Simpson Chatterley my grandfather, that he went to Canada on 14 June 1923 on SS Montcalm from Liverpool to Quebec, I am confused because the only one I can find is to New York, see below, can anyone help on the Canada theory?
Given names: Simpson
Surnames: Chatterley
Residence: Wigan, England
Ship arrival date: 09 Jul 1923
Arrival age: 22 y
Nationality: Emnglish
Departure port name: Liverpool
Ship arrival port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital status: S
US citizen:
Ship name: Carmania
Collection: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island) 1892-1924
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 22:49 UTC (UK) »

he did, but seems to be a difference in the ages ?
also if it helps the address he left from was 16 earl street Leigh

Name: Simpson CHATTERLEY 
Date of departure: 14 June 1923   
Port of departure: Liverpool   
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada   
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada   

Date of Birth: 1890 (calculated from age) 
Age: 33 
Marital status: 
Sex: Male 
Occupation: Miner 

Ship:
MONTCALM


ps in case you didnt know he returned from Canada in 1924 and his age is 34
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 23:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that, wonder who the Simpson who went to New York was? I am amazed how many there were with that name.  Do we have any way of finding out when he returned?  He had a daughter in 1923 and a son in 1925, they were all born in the UK, his wife Fanny and kids didnt go with him.

Sue
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 02:29 UTC (UK) »

Re the Carmania passage he was going to his Uncle Mr. W. Hampson 7013 South Main St., Los Angeles, Calif. He was 5'6" brown hair, grey eyes, fresh complexion. He was intending to be a permanent resident of the US.

Does your Simpson Chatterley have a Hampson connection? If yes, the US record would be him. Details above are from 2nd page for record.

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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 02:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue

On October 27, 1923 when the U.S. Chatterley completes a declaration of intention, he is at 7313 South Main St., single and works as a hardwood floor layer.

Linda
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 03:13 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that, wonder who the Simpson who went to New York was? I am amazed how many there were with that name.  Do we have any way of finding out when he returned?  He had a daughter in 1923 and a son in 1925, they were all born in the UK, his wife Fanny and kids didnt go with him.

Sue

you might have missed the ps above, so here is full info, and again is deffo' him as it gives his return addess to earl street again

Name: Simpson Chatterley
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 34 
Port of Departure: Montră©AL, Quă©Bec, Canada 
Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1924
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England 
Ports of Voyage: Quebec 
Ship Name: Regina


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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

Yes Simpson had a relative named Hampson, his father died when he was young and his mother elizabeth remarried a Hampson but Simpson kept the chatterley name.  We have here 2 Simpsons, one was on the way to New York and my direct descendant to Quebec, who later returned the year after.

Would they be cousins?

Confused....

Sue
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

best for you to check through the census to suss it out
as in most of the census there are two Simpsons and both in the wigan area each time
even in the 1911 there is one newly born, and one who is in the miltary and a Joseph Simpson Chatterley
and a Thomas Simson Chatterley, so easy for you the name has been carried through the years, as i say you just need to suss out who and which by what you already know
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Re: Quebec 1923
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 19:41 UTC (UK) »

The Simpson born in 1890 went to Canada, it is the 1 who went to New York im baffled by, will have to look and see who was his parents, he must be a cousin of my mums grandad.
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