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Lady Di
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I’ve been trying to draw the family tree with this lot and have all those lovely little boxes connect in all the right places but even my family tree program asked for “time out”!! (it actually shut down in horror!)
Whether this is "inbreeding" or just “keeping it in the family” – either way it sure explains some peculiarities in later generations! 
All the Cole family members are siblings (and yes! the girls did marry many many times) …..
Elizabeth Cole married William Fox and his brother Ralph Fox married Joan Cole
Anne Cole married Ralph Hopkins and his brother John Hopkins married Margaret Cole
Margaret Cole married Henry Murray and his brother Edward Murray married Anne Cole
Margaret Cole’s son, Hugh Hopkins married his step-sister Lucy, the daughter of Henry Murray.
Henry Murray married Anne White and her brother Robert White married Anne Cole
Jane Cole married Edward Black and his sister Margaret Black married Henry Green
Thomas Cole married Sara, the daughter of Margaret Black and Henry Green
Edward & Margaret Black’s mother was Elizabeth Rose, sister of Henry Rose.
John Cole married Henry Rose’s daughter, Anne Rose.
Sussanah Murray, sister of Henry & Edward Murray, married Richard Smith.
Their son, George Smith married Jane Fox, dau of Ralph Fox & Joan Cole.
Susanna Murray, dau of Margaret Cole & Henry Murray married George Bridge.
An Edward Murray also married Catherine Bridge, kin of George Bridge
and so it continues …………..
Surnames have been changed to protect the innocent!! 
It can only get easier after making some sort of sense from this family
For Sale - One rather inbred family (with interesting connections!!) 
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MarieC
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In Queensland, Oz
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Hello Lady Di!!
What a family!
Well, at least you have a perfect excuse if anyone ever accuses you of being eccentric!
MarieC
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Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland
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Lady Di
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Hello MarieC,
It's good to know that I have an excuse now
The trouble is that some of this family are actually ancestors of the present Royal family as well
Mmmmm - think I'll leave that one alone 
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MarieC
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In Queensland, Oz
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Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland
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Lady Di
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I normally do the same as you Toni and only note the siblings as an aside comment but in this case I became rather interested in the children & descendants of my 12 x great grandfather.
For the first time ever I have more information about a family than I know what to do with. Nice position to be in but only if I can show it all on a diagram somehow.
Shall keep trying (and dreaming of coloured foxes  )
Di
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Lady Di
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I like the idea of movable cards. Then as each remarries you just re shuffle the cards and BINGO- a whole new tree!
The fun started when one girl died and her sister wanted to marry her brother-in-law (WRONG!!) so he married someone else, his new wife died so he married the original sister who was no longer his sister-in-law 
Confused yet - it just gets worse
and they bred like rabbits (gave the foxes something to chase)
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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And I thought the fact my parents are brother and sister-in-law was confusing!
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Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
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Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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RichardK
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Two ways:
1. Make it three-dimensional. Get some coat hangers and hang pieces of card from them, with each piece of card representing one person. From each piece of card have pieces of string tying them to their relatives - perhaps one colour string for spousal relationships and another colour for parent / child relationships. Try and get it so that children hang below their parents, whilst spouses are on the same level. See if you can complete it without inadvertantly tying yourself in knots.
2. Have several diagrams - descendants of the Coles, Foxes, Hopkins etc. Then you'll be able to see the different relationships quite clearly - e.g. cousins on mother's side but half siblings on father's side or whatever it happens to be.
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Scott, Roxburghshire & Perthshire
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