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shan42
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Chinese Whispers!
« on: Wednesday 23 September 09 13:38 UTC (UK) »

We were always told we had Irish ancestry on my paternal g/mother's side and she was from Cork... looking back through the records though, it turns out so far no Irish ancestry - just the name Irish on my great grandfather's side!  Grin
I'm still hoping to find the Mitchells were originally from the Emerald Isle though - but who knows!
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 15:21 UTC (UK) »

hi shan
one day you might come across some irish ancester when i was a kid we were told my dads lot were ftom ireland which is right but i cant do anything with that line.so it might be better if you dont find any.
regards neil
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 September 09 18:38 UTC (UK) »

My mum was adament that her (Jones) line came from Wales and backed this up with in-depth knowledge of the Welsh phrase for hello "yaki da" (this actually means good health and is spelled iechyd da!) .  Five generations back from her the Jones are STILL firmly rooted in Deptford, SE London (shipbuilding) so goodness knows when I will connect with a real Welsh speaker.
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 September 09 11:46 UTC (UK) »

Similar thing in my family. I started my tree to find my Russian ancestry through my grandmothers family, and after several frustrating months had got nowhere.

I asked her how she knew about her connection to the country and she said that she'd always been called Russian Red by her mum when she was young.

Turns out, she was a small child when quite a newsworthy event took place (the Russian Revolution!!) and, oh just purely by coincidence, her hair was bright red!! It didn't take long to realise that her mother had heard the phrase and just called her that. No Russian connection as far back as it is possible to trace!

Ho hum.
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shan42
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 September 09 23:20 UTC (UK) »

Lol!! I definitely blame the parents...hehe!!
God knows where the Cork connection came in...  have yet to find shire horse breeders from Northampton in my family, though I've only just scratched the surface I'm not holding my breath - there has to be someone interesting way back though, or at least a juicy skeleton in somebody's cupboard, lol!!  Grin
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 September 09 11:19 UTC (UK) »

their so much to uncover to prove or disprove which i think adds to the fun.it took me 2 years for my mam to agree her great grandfather was orphaned at 4 years old and was in the poor house their was only 2 kids out of 8 lived to get martied and have kids of their own and after the last WDYTYA it seams their parrents could have had a S.T.D but if i do more reserch on them i dont think i will tell my mam my findings she is a bit old to be shocked with this sort of thing and would she believe me .
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 September 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »



After many years I am still looking for my ancestor who "came over with the Spanish Armada", according to my grandmother. Not even crossed the Channel yet, never mind got as far as Spain.

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 September 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »





Then we have my Great Grandfather's sister, Aunt Polly from Yorkshire who became the Mayoress of Washington DC.

If anyone would like the job of proving that one !! 

Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 September 09 21:31 UTC (UK) »

My mother always insisted that we had French ancestors, but after many years of research without even a sniff of camembert or vin rouge, I began to doubt her.  However, I have recently come across a branch of Goslings who, when traced back, started out as Josselyn/Josselin, so perhaps she was right.  Currently they are firmly entrenched in 19th century Lavenham, Suffolk, but who knows....
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 September 09 21:40 UTC (UK) »

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Aunt Polly from Yorkshire who became the Mayoress of Washington DC.

Hi Pels

How about Washington in Co Durham (now Tyne & Wear).  Sounds a bit more promising  Cheesy

Linda
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 September 09 05:27 UTC (UK) »

'Great Aunt Lizzie was a naughty girl and ran away to Canada, but she married the mayor and made good' !!

Well, she DID go to Canada, and she DID marry a mayor, sort of ... he was temporary mayor for six months in the small town they lived in ... but its the 'naughty girl' bit I'd love to be able to prove !



Then there's the one about great, great (however many greats you care to add) grandfather who was George Stephenson of Rocket fame and who drove it in 1829 ...

I do have family from Stockton ... so maybe ... one to work on sometime !!
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 September 09 06:15 UTC (UK) »

There is the same story from different branches of my family to say we are descended from the Archbishop of Canterbury who was the Archbishop when Henry the 8th was a boy.  Trouble is the Archbishop was celibate (or should have been) as it was still Catholic England - before Henry the 8th grew up.  Still my Dad used to say the portrait of the Archbishop showed he had the large family nose.

Another story in another family proved to be true. I poohed  poohed the story that there was money in chancery especially as the family were all ag labs, until I found a record of a probate & distribution in the record office.  One of the ag labs had married an older wealthy widow and he died intestate.  Our branch of the family could not be legally traced because of migration to OZ, although they knew they were entitled to inherit - enough to buy a horse and cart.  Gazania
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kizmiaz
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 September 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »

Anyone have any clues how I could prove or disprove another family rumour? I've been told by a distant cousin that one of my great-grandmothers was a female wrestler! I don't have the foggiest notion how to even begin to find out about that!!! (But her photos do make it look at least physically possible, if you know what I mean!)
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 September 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »

There is the same story from different branches of my family to say we are descended from the Archbishop of Canterbury who was the Archbishop when Henry the 8th was a boy.  Trouble is the Archbishop was celibate (or should have been) as it was still Catholic England - before Henry the 8th grew up.  Still my Dad used to say the portrait of the Archbishop showed he had the large family nose.



That would be Archbishop Cranmer, and he was married before he became a priest ! 

See   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cranmer#Early_years_.281489.E2.80.931527.29

So it could just be a possibility !
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Re: Chinese Whispers!
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 September 09 18:37 UTC (UK) »

Family legend has it that we are descended from the Wolf of Badenoch (Alexander Stewart) who was the 4th son of King Robert 11 of Scotland.   My GG mother was a Stewart from that area.  However maybe best best to let sleeping dogs (or wolves) lie as he was a notorious ruffian.  He is also reputed to have had 40 illegitimate grandchildren.

It does give the family history a bit of spice though.
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