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Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« on: Wednesday 23 September 09 22:58 UTC (UK) »

Hello everyone,

My interest in my G,G,G Grandfather Walter Bell is to find the baptisms of his children in Cumberland; Walter & James.

These are the facts from the 1841 Census for;  Toler Lane, in the township of Rickergate.

Walter Bell, Head, aged 40 working as a stonemason, born in Scotland
Margaret Bell, Wife, aged 40, born in Scotland
James Bell, Son, aged 5, born in Cumberland
John Aitken, Father-in-law, aged 75, born in Scotland

Also on the same road in a different household on Toler Lane is a Walter Bell, aged 15, also born in Cumberland working as an apprentice stonemason.

My theory of Walter, aged 15, is that because there may have been no room at his fathers house because of his Grandfather being there.
Also the fact that this Walter was an apprentice stonemason, perhaps to his father Walter.

Any help of these two baptisms would be of great help.

Regards
Charles

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names: Bell, Aitken.
areas: St.Marys Carlisle, Ecclefechan, Hutton & Corrie, and Bothwell in Lanarkshire.
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Re: Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 September 09 00:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Charles

Do you have them on the 1851 census?  That would give more precisely where they were born, and make the baptism easier to pin down.  I don't have Ancestry just now or I'd look.

Best wishes

Emms
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Re: Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 September 09 11:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Emms,

On the 1851 Census;
Walter Bell is working as an 'surveying stonemason' living in Bothwell, Lanarkshire.
Walter was born in Annan 1799

Walter's wife Margaret (nee Aitken) was also living in Bothwell.
Margaret Aitken was born in Hutton and Corrie in 1796

James, their son aged 15 was living with his parents in Bothwell as an 'Pupil teacher'.
This Census for James states he was born in England (Cumberland), James would have been born in 1836.

As for Walter Bell, the 'stonemason apprentice' born in Cumberland, in 1826, he seems to have dissapeared and cannot find him on the 1851 Census.

Regards and thanks for the help

Charles
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names: Bell, Aitken.
areas: St.Marys Carlisle, Ecclefechan, Hutton & Corrie, and Bothwell in Lanarkshire.
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Re: Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 September 09 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Charles

Sorry, I was being slow.  I was thinking if they'd been in England in 1851, we's have got a more exact birthplace, but of course they weren't so we just get Cumberland again.

I'll have a think.

Best wishes

Emms
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Re: Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

do you know what james childrens names are including any middle names  csc
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charlton and sparks cumberland  kerr  and dickson mouswald and torthorwad bell ruthwell hetherington ruthwell and cumberland cursiter  sanday and kirkwall drever sanday cooper sanday turfus sanday
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Re: Walter Bell, Rickergate, St Marys, Carlisle
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 09 15:44 UTC (UK) »

have you checked walter 06/06/1802 lochmaben son of janet steel/john bell  seems a bit young  csc
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charlton and sparks cumberland  kerr  and dickson mouswald and torthorwad bell ruthwell hetherington ruthwell and cumberland cursiter  sanday and kirkwall drever sanday cooper sanday turfus sanday
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