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mediclotte40
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McGinn
« on: Wednesday 23 September 09 08:11 UTC (UK) » |
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i am trying to find the wife of my gt grandfather Joseph McGinn born 1890 Durham towlaw
his son was George henry Arthur born falmouth 1911
Josephs father was thomas Mcginn 1862 born county Tyrone mother Elizabeth 1860
they both worked in the mines
any help very much appreciated
kind regards
Charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 08:49 UTC (UK) » |
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Joseph McGINN, son of Thomas and Elizabeth, seems to have been known by his middle name, as this is the only birth registration I can see which matches the census data:
Births Jun 1889
McGINN John Joseph S
Weardale 10a 2[90]6
(Weardale registration district covers Tow Law)
However, I can't spot a likely marriage in that name, and Joseph seems to be at home with his parents on the 1911 census index. 
There is a marriage in Falmouth in 1910 between Henry J McGINN and Ada MERRIFIELD: after the birth of George H A (which is too early to show the mother's maiden name in the index), Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com shows several more McGINN births, all with mother's maiden name MERRIFIELD/MERRYFIELD. Did your grandfather have any brothers and sisters?
Otherwise, you really need George's birth cert to be certain who his parents were.
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mediclotte40
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 08:59 UTC (UK) » |
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thank you for your reply..i am unable to find out about brothers and sisters as no family members surviving hence the brick wall...
i'll continue in my search and fingers crossed something turns up
kind regards
charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 09:08 UTC (UK) » |
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I can see Ada McGINN (née MERRIFIELD) in Falmouth on the 1911 index, but her husband doesn't seem to be with her... It might be worth buying a few credits and checking Joseph's entry to see whether he is listed as married or single - there isn't much time between the census and George's birth.
Otherwise, I'd recommend buying the birth cert if/when funds allow.
Just to complicate matters, I can't see an obvious birth for Henry J McGINN, and there are no McGINNs in Cornwall before the 1910 marriage!
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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mediclotte40
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 09:45 UTC (UK) » |
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ooh no the plot thickens...knew it wouldn't be easy my mum's side of family even worse they were mill owners well known in gilberdyke yorks and were all knocking off the neighbors and having children by them...aghhhh!!
i'm wondering why my gt grandfather went to falmouth from durham..have vague recollection that he may have been in navy?? merchant though..hmmm
i am on egens reuntited with unlimited use but not sure how to proceed with search..
charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 09:58 UTC (UK) » |
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At the moment, the 1911 census is only available here (pay-to-view) http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/ - it will also be available on subscription via findmypast from late October. The index is free, and by using the advanced search fields you can often work out who else is in the household, but it doesn't show details like occupation, marital status, etc.
Navy would make sense for Falmouth, or anything to do with the docks?
Do you have any idea when Joseph died? It would be interesting to check the name given on the death regstration.
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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mediclotte40
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 11:06 UTC (UK) » |
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i have just checked on free bmd and no death recorded for either a george or joseph??
but i did find a josephine mcginn 1927 falmouth i presume died at bith,they must be related or am i barking up wrong tree?
i will go onto the site you mentioned and see if i can find anything out...
thanks so much for all your help..i have only just started to research the family so it is all very new and bewildering to me
charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 11:38 UTC (UK) » |
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and also a michael born 1923...also my dads name
edith born and died 1915
james 1925
but can find no trace of joseph or henry still...
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 11:40 UTC (UK) » |
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Free BMD has only transcribed deaths up to about 1935 so far, so later deaths don't show there. The complete GRO index is a nuisance to search if you don't know a rough date because you have to view every quarter.
Josephine McGINN is one of the 6 children whose mother was (I believe) Ada MERRIFIELD - Josephine and her sister Edith died in infancy.
If you decide to order George's birth cert, it costs £7, and you can order online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 12:38 UTC (UK) » |
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eureka!!!!
have managed to get hold of my dad who lives in philippines after a week of bad signal
and he has confirmed his grandmother was ada but got cut off but at least i now have a place to start looking...
charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 12:41 UTC (UK) » |
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BINGO!
Good hunting!
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 13:11 UTC (UK) » |
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it has been a nightmare to get any info from dad mostly due to the distance and his love of red wine...tut tut at his age,ha but got there at last...all thanks to your input..
now have some serious hunting to do to find out where her husband was,dad said navy so maybe that's why not on census...and was known as henry..
thanks v much...my day off work has been fruitful
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 September 09 08:03 UTC (UK) » |
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ooh right now i'm not sure about all this...
on the 1911 census ada is a mcginn and has been married for a yr but joseph mcginn is still listed as single living with parents in durham..
just don't get it as my granfather george henry arthur mcginn was born 1911??
help please
charlotte
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 September 09 09:23 UTC (UK) » |
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Well, it looks as if it wasn't that Joseph (John Joseph S) who married Ada - the marriage I found in Falmouth was for a Henry J McGINN, and your dad said his grandfather was known as Henry, so that fits.
Why did you think that George's father was Joseph, son of Thomas? Was that info from your family?
George's birth cert will give both his parents' names if you want to be totally sure, and Henry and Ada's marriage cert will give their ages, as well as their fathers' names and occupations.
Let's hope Ada is a little easier to trace than her husband!
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Re: McGinn
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 September 09 10:50 UTC (UK) » |
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Ada McGINN died Dec Q 1961, aged 77. (Falmouth 7a 28)
Henry Joseph McGINN died Dec Q 1969 - date of birth 5 June 1886. (Falmouth 7a 93)
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