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Topic: Presbyterian Church, Parish of Bothwell? (Read 279 times)
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Canisp
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Robert and Janet (Ellis) Walker 1948
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I am trying to find out, on behalf of a friend, if the church where his ancestor was married is still standing. The church in question is "Presbyterian Church of Scotland, Parish of Bothwell". The marriage took place in December 1849. Can anyone please tell me the likely location of this church and if it still exists, perhaps under a differrent name?
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Paterson (Edinburgh before1840), Smith (Cambusnethan before 1861)
Turnbull, Hume, Whitecross, Aitchison (all East Lothian)
Walker (Bathgate before 1880), Lawson (Edinburgh before 1868), Ellis (Biggar, Cambusnethan and West Calder), Jamieson (Biggar before 1800), Cree (Biggar before 1800)
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Lodger
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Pennyfuir, Oban
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Bothwell was a big parish with several villages, each with its own church. Do you have any idea of the location within the parish?
Very often, depending the social status, people were married in their own homes by the minister of the parish church, usually on a Saturday evening. Church weddings were for those who had a bit of money, not always the case with the ordinary working class.
Lodger.
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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire.
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire.
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
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Canisp
RootsChat Extra
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Robert and Janet (Ellis) Walker 1948
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Hi Lodger, thanks,
The info I have shows the marriage was on a Sunday. I will try and find out if there is more detail available on the actual village where the church was.
p.s. did you recieve the PM I sent you on Monday re-Cambusnethan Cemetery map/lair positions?
Davie
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Turnbull, Hume, Whitecross, Aitchison (all East Lothian)
Walker (Bathgate before 1880), Lawson (Edinburgh before 1868), Ellis (Biggar, Cambusnethan and West Calder), Jamieson (Biggar before 1800), Cree (Biggar before 1800)
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sancti
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 1840
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Do you have their address?
Have you got them on the 1851 census?
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Canisp
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Robert and Janet (Ellis) Walker 1948
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Here is all the info I have -
JAMES KENNEDY, coal miner, married MARY CRAWFORD 02 Dec 1849 in Presbyterian Church of Scotland, Parish of Bothwell. Both died before 26 Jun 1874. They had a son HUGH KENNEDY born 23 July 1855, Chapelhall, died 04 Mar 1921, Douglas Water, LNKS.
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Turnbull, Hume, Whitecross, Aitchison (all East Lothian)
Walker (Bathgate before 1880), Lawson (Edinburgh before 1868), Ellis (Biggar, Cambusnethan and West Calder), Jamieson (Biggar before 1800), Cree (Biggar before 1800)
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sancti
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Posts: 1840
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Do you know what age he was when he married. Possible 1851 census entry for James and Mary Kennedy
1851 KENNEDY JAMES Male aged 28 CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 004/00 015
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sancti
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Posts: 1840
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Looks like they could still be in Cambusnethan in 1861 census
1861 KENNEDY HUGH Male aged 6 CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 011/00 013
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Canisp
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Robert and Janet (Ellis) Walker 1948
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No, I do not have James's age when he married. I do have a marriage ref. No. "GROS 625/0040 0221".
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Turnbull, Hume, Whitecross, Aitchison (all East Lothian)
Walker (Bathgate before 1880), Lawson (Edinburgh before 1868), Ellis (Biggar, Cambusnethan and West Calder), Jamieson (Biggar before 1800), Cree (Biggar before 1800)
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sancti
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Posts: 1840
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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You can view the above census images on SP and they will show James and Mary's place of birth which may narrow down the church
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Lodger
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Pennyfuir, Oban
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Looks like it could be the nearest church to Chapelhall, not sure if it had one at that time but Holytown did, and that was only a couple of miles away. Bothwell parish church was much further away. The 1855 birth certificate should tell you the date and place of the marriage (but it may be where you found the "Parish church Bothwell" info) it should also give the parents ages and places of birth. If they were both local people, and by that I mean Lanarkshire or thereabouts, it would be likely that they were married in the bride's parish.
So follow Sancti's advice and find the bride's birthplace.
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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire.
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire.
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
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